[Tagging] RENDER

[André Pirard]

On 2014-08-26 13:38, Christian Quest wrote :
> André I think you missed a major thing about cartography (and
> topography).
>
> As OSM contributors, we're not cartographers but topographers... we
> record topographic data.
>
> Then cartographers use that data, make choices to have some objets of
> THEIR choice visible on the map THEY are making with the data we
> collected.
Christian, I think that you missed an important sentence of mine:
>> On the other hand, to address another critique, RENDER can indicate
>> that it means that the feature is considered important either only
>> for the standard map or for some other categories of maps.
When the mappers are doing the "tagging for the renderer" that I'm
trying to fight, they have a cartography point of view that their
features do not show and that's almost exclusively on the standard map. 
Hence, RENDER would be a request to show on the standard map (it would
in fact be almost impossible to cope with all the sorts of maps).
>> These choices are made with contraints: scale (no bus_stop at zoom
>> 6), map use (trucks don't care about bicycle parkings).
> These choices are not done at the data level, but at the stylesheet level.
>
> If you're not happy of the cartographer's choices... become a
> cartographer yourself !
>
> OSM gives you that freedom as anybody can use the same data, and the
> same tool to do the map matching our choices by designing their own
> stylesheet.
>
> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cartographer
> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/topographer
>
> I'm on both sides... topographer as OSM contributor, and cartographer
> make maps with OSM data.
> As a cartographer, I will not use such a tag which does not give me
> control anymore on what appears or not on the map I'm making.
And it's normal because you do not draw the standard map.
And note that RENDER is not coercive, not against any renderer's
decision to to to not map.
But please notice that it's much easier to ignore rendering requests
made with a RENDER tag than those disguised with a "tagging for the
renderer" that I am trying to fight.
All the replies in this thread showed absolutely no desire to join the
fight and make suggestions, just to disparage the idea.

André.




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