[Tagging] Combining gas stations & convenience stores
johnw at mac.com
Mon Dec 15 07:00:10 UTC 2014
> Maybe in Japan a convenience store doesn't have food in it.
Japan has the nicest "conbinis" you can find - you could actually eat a real (premade) lunch every day from a convenience store here, rather than getting food poisoning from a hot dog at one in the US.
However - to them Fast food iconography might be a bowl of noodles - Ramen shops, soba shops, Udon shops - or a takeout of Fried cutlet, fried octopus balls, or other quick fried food (fried chicken, etc) - but mostly noodles.
While McDonalds are prevalent, the category of fast food in Japan is not represented by a burger - or a knife & fork.
Categories are easy - as long as we decide on how we structure the tags - are the categories flat, with a few distinctions - and let the taggers decide; or do we make everything very hierarchical and make everything fit into ever narrower sub-categories? I think flat is the way to go, just like amenity=* is full of stuff.
I think the iconography is arguably more important - having some regional icons for common food - a Mexican food icon won’t get much use in Japan, just as a noodle bowl icon would be similarly disused in the US - but both are equally necessary in their home country.
Trying to make standard rules for fast_food vs restaurant is a losing battle - unless you you visit the place (or it’s a chain), you’d probably know.
Leave it to the taggers to figure out.
What we need to do is make the cuisine tags set about 100 times bigger - and get some regional differences represented in the tags so when someone searches for “ラーメン” - a ridiculously common search for fast food here in Japan - it doesn’t populate the screen with burger icons. I imagine fixing that starts with tagging.
Gas stations with conbini’s is easy - tag them both. no one complains when there is more than one tag at a mall - the same goes for a gas station with a connivence store. I believe there is a tag for a small pay booth or cashier’s office, if the gas station isn’t a convenience store, right?
PS:Basic categories of restaurants in Japan
- Ramen, soba, udon
- “Family” restaurant (denny’s, etc)
- Sushi / traditional Japanese
- takoyaki (octopus balls)
- karaage (Japanese style fried chicen)
- conveyor belt sushi
- Izakaiya (pub).
- Snack (bar)
This covers about 99% of restaurants in Japan - the first 6 cover about 80%
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