[Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

Никита acroq3 at gmail.com
Fri Dec 19 10:28:24 UTC 2014


> Why not?
Is your questions serious? Do you really want to tag 1000 pencils at 30
tables? Will you update this information from day to day? Will you separate
playground:felt-tip pen=yes from playground:pen=yes?

>However, I think it was bad decision to have it tagged as playground=swing/etc
instead of playground:swing/etc=yes (similar to recycling:*=yes tagging
system).
You will be surprised that nobody using this system in Russia.
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.ru/search?q=recycling%3A

or mentioned playground schema:
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.ru/search?q=playground

Similarly we don't care about exact tables and their locations or
geometries. We need answers to simple questions "Where should I leave my
child?". We don't care about playground:pencil=yes tagging, it is useless
for any purpose.


2014-12-19 14:03 GMT+04:00 Ilpo Järvinen <ilpo.jarvinen at helsinki.fi>:
>
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2014, Никита wrote:
>
> > > leisure=playground
> > > playground:supervised=yes/no
> > > playground:outdoor=yes/no
> > > playground:indoor=yes/no
> > kids_area=* is not about these 4 tags. kids_area=* is disjoint to
> > leisure=playgrounds. Please read proposal.
> >
> > http://www.imenno.ru/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/HD_08.jpg-940x626.jpg -
> > leisure=playground
> > http://www.realkidfriendly.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/161.jpg -
> > kids_area=yes
> > http://goidapark.com.ua/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/12.jpg -
> > leisure=playground
> > http://alpindustria.ru/UserFiles/Image/News/Novosib_kidsplace/01.jpg
> > - kids_area=yes
> > http://planeta-sh.by/Image/Uploaded/0.jpg - kids_area=yes
> >
> http://www.labirint-bookstore.ru/images/upl/tinymce/pages_6_1281101285.jpg
> -
> > kids_area=yes in shop=books
> > http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6001/vincentventa.c/0_508b4_38a3aef3_XL -
> > kids_area=yes inside leisure=stadium
> >
> > Do you have tags
> forplayground=pony? playground=pencils? playground=books? playground=table? pl
> > ayground=horses? If not, there no reason to talk about it in kids_area
> > proposal
> >
> > I will not use over 70 tags to simply map single kids_area=*.
>
> Why not? I don't see why the given list would be complete even for outdoor
> playgrounds:
>   https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:playground
> ...so mappers should use new values when needed rather than waiting them
> to magically appear on the playground=* wiki page.
>
> However, I think it was bad decision to have it tagged as
> playground=swing/etc instead of playground:swing/etc=yes (similar to
> recycling:*=yes tagging system). That would have allowed better inclusion
> of multiple equipment to the same object (e.g. climbingframe+slide is
> rather typical combo) and use of it for the whole playground object (area
> or node) instead of placing each equipment to the physical position.
>
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