[Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

Никита acroq3 at gmail.com
Fri Dec 19 11:05:00 UTC 2014


This topic not about leisure=playground tagging. We need to define 2 ned
tags: amenity=kids_area and kids_area=*. Please don't tell us about
leisure=playground (it was mentioned in proposal that new tags will be
opposite to leisure=playground) or amenity=recycling or recycling:*=*
shema (WTF).


> I think that others have given a reasonable answers to this already but
you replied to them with ponies. Why did you bring up the ponies then? :-)
You trying to invent useless pointless shema when nobody asked you for this.

We need two new tags. We don't need 10000 tags for micromapping maniacs. We
don't use even 16, http://taginfo.openstreetmap.ru/search?q=playground. We
need 2 simple tags that people will actually use. Therefore I provided link
about unused playground schema in Russia, but you missed the point.


2014-12-19 14:49 GMT+04:00 Ilpo Järvinen <ilpo.jarvinen at helsinki.fi>:
>
> Let me highlight something that was said by you(!) in the email I
> answered to:
>
> > > Do you have tags
> forplayground=pony? playground=pencils? playground=books? playground=table?
> > > playground=horses? If not, there no reason to talk about it in
> > > kids_area proposal
>
> ...and then you proceed to talk something below that entirely contradicts
> what you said above?!?
>
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2014, Никита wrote:
>
> > > Why not?
> > Is your questions serious?
>
> I answered to what I thought that was a serious question from you but
> you seem to not care about the response in the first place.
>
> > Do you really want to tag 1000 pencils
> > at 30 tables? Will you update this information from day to day? Will you
> > separate playground:felt-tip pen=yes from playground:pen=yes?
>
> Again, you're asking not so serious questions I suppose? Would you blame
> me again if I answer?
>
> > >However, I think it was bad decision to have it tagged
> > > as playground=swing/etc instead of playground:swing/etc=yes (similar
> > > to recycling:*=yes tagging system).
> >
> > You will be surprised that nobody using this system in
> > Russia. http://taginfo.openstreetmap.ru/search?q=recycling%3A
>
> ??? That's around 1000 using it already? Put that in contrast with only
> 2.5k amenity=recycling, I don't think I agree with your claim that nobody
> would be using it!
>
> > or mentioned playground schema:
> > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.ru/search?q=playground
>
> playground=* is significantly newer than e.g. recycling:*=yes and
> considered micromapping by many. As such, I wouldn't expect very high
> numbers to appear on it except on very high quality mapped areas.
>
> > Similarly we don't care about exact tables and their locations or
> > geometries. We need answers to simple questions "Where should I leave my
> > child?". We don't care about playground:pencil=yes tagging, it is useless
> > for any purpose.
>
> I think that others have given a reasonable answers to this already but
> you replied to them with ponies. Why did you bring up the ponies then? :-)
>
>
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