[Tagging] closing-hours

Peter Wendorff wendorff at uni-paderborn.de
Tue Feb 25 14:24:45 UTC 2014

Hi André,
as far as I know, the same would be possible with
opening_hours="24/7, Fr 14:00-22:00 off"

no need for an extra tag.
Also keep in mind that two tags opening_hours and closing_hours are
error prone when used both together at the same object.


Am 25.02.2014 14:50, schrieb André Pirard:
> Hi,
> I had to tag several parking lots closed on times such as *Fr 14:00-22:00* when 
> the market took place there.
> I raised a convoluted discussion: everyone had a different opinion about that 
> tagging, plus strange comments (*).
> After more than 10 hours spent in research and collaboration, I had to conclude 
> with the inability of the Key:Opening_hours 
> <http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Opening_hours> specification to express that timing, 
> or explain it, at least simply.
> I finally used a vary straightforward and clear:
> *closing-hours=Fr 14:00-22:00*
> and I suggest that you use it too and that you add that key to the specification.
> It can be clearly explained, once won't hurt, as follows:
> As often funnily put, /*closing-hours*/ is the same as /*opening-hours*/ except 
> that it is exactly the opposite :-)
> Seriously: use /*closing-hours*/ with the same rules as *opening-hours* and 
> invert the result: opening time becomes closing time and conversely.
> It couldn't be more simple, obvious and understandable.  Quite the opposite of 
> that story.
> May this be helpful,
>   Cheers,
> André.
> (*) I read very strange statements such as:
> "off" must not be defined, it must be grasped.
> "off" is not used.
> "off" is used, but not like that.
> xxx, must not be defined because it has been used for a long time.
> it's wrong.
> it's wrong.
> ... (without saying what's right)
> etc, etc, etc...
> In face of such chaos, I tried to help by putting the rules in a clear diagram 
> so that the incongruities would stand out and be corrected, and the reactions 
> were twofold:
> - yeah, finally a simple and understandable explanation
> - it's wrong, but again without saying more, less making corrections
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