[Tagging] Winter sports share the same way

yvecai yvecai at gmail.com
Mon Jan 13 20:10:38 UTC 2014


Bryce,
There is already a documented scheme for snowshoeing:
piste:type=hike + piste:grooming=backcountry (250 use)
With piste:type=hike + piste:grooming=classic being for 'winter hiking' 
(111 use).

Yves

On 01/13/2014 08:02 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Tod Fitch <tod at fitchdesign.com 
> <mailto:tod at fitchdesign.com>> wrote:
>
>     In the areas I cross country ski at in the California mountains
>     many trails are used by both nordic skiers and snowshoers. Since I
>     am ski centric I've tended to tag them as piste:type=nordic. Could
>     one simply tag them as piste:type=nordic;snowshoe? A bit ugly and
>     the difficulty is an issue as the skill level required for
>     snowshoeing a trail can be quite different from skiing it.
>
>
> This is a case where one type of use degrades the other.
>
> 'nordic;snowshoe' says both uses are allowed.  But a nordic skier may 
> in fact seek out that more rare breed 'nordic; showshow-prohibited', 
> just as an equestrian may seek out fire roads on which mountain bikes 
> are prohibited.  Who wants to glide ski in someone else's snowshoe tracks?
>
>
> ----
> Thus, I think that marking a snow trail by intended use may be the 
> wrong approach.
>
>   * It's a marked route where the markings are visible about the snow
>     line (e.g. on trees or poles).  Map that characteristic.  This is
>     the key physicall mappable quality of a snow trail.
>   * It may have access restrictions (e.g. no snowmobiles).  Map that.
>   * It may have a certain width or slope.  Map that.
>
> But listing all the types of devices that may be used on the snow, or 
> rating the difficulty?
> That seems too fragile and too prone to interpretation and change over 
> time.  Are sleds allowed?
> Snow bikes?  The yet-to-be-invented rolling insulated snow bubble?
>
> Map what's there -- the snow route markings -- and perhaps let the use 
> conventions be documented elsewhere.
>
> Note that many snow routes follow a summer route or road exactly.  But 
> on occasion the snow markings deviate, perhaps taking a shortcut, or 
> smoothing out a slope, compared to the summer route.  Both cases 
> should be considered.
>
>
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