[Tagging] aerialway=drag_lift

[Colin Smale]

I disagree, they are not the same at all! Just ask my wife, who has
skied for years, has no problems with platter lifts, about a 50% success
rate with t-bars on her own, and 10% success rate on t-bars with someone
else. 

Occupancy is also not really the right word as that would refer to the
actual number of people using it, and not its capacity per "seat". So
occupancy would probably be between 0 and 1.7 people per "seat" (or,
otherwise stated, between 0% and 85%) depending on how busy it is. 

Colin 

On 2014-01-22 18:38, remontees at free.fr wrote: 

> But t-bar are only platters with aerialway:occupancy=2 !!!! 
> 
> 2014/1/22 Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl>
> 
> Drag lift is more generic - both t-bar and platter (and rope_tow) are subtypes of drag lift. The distinction between t-bar, platter and rope_tow is very important to some people (particularly inexperienced skiers). In some areas like Austria the t-bar is more popular whereas in France you see only platters. 
> 
> Colin 
> 
> On 2014-01-22 17:47, remontees at free.fr wrote: 
> 
> So, why we have platters, and why it is recommended on iD editor ? And what is the utility of t-bar, because it's a platter with 2 persons, so aerialway:occupancy=2, no ?
> 
> I can't understand why it is duplicate. It's not good... 
> 
> 2014/1/22 Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>
> 
> 2014/1/22 remontees at free.fr <remontees at free.fr>
> I think we can delete aerialway=drag_lift of Openstreetmap's wiki because it's a duplication of platter. Same thing for t-bar, for 2 places platters, we have the tag aerialway:occupancy=2, which is not easily parametrable in iD editor. 
> 
> According to taginfo, aerialway=platter is used much fewer than drag_lift and t-bar is almost at par with platter. The proposal states that this is only to be used for "Platter lift [1], similar to a t-bar, but with a disc instead of a bar. Single-person only. "
> http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Piste_Maps [2]
> 
> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/aerialway#values [3]
> 
> drag_lift [4] 
> 
> 4 830 
> 
> platter [5] 
> 
> 1 471 
> 
> goods [6] 
> 
> 1 217 
> 
> t-bar [7] 
> 
> 1 206 
> 
> so NO, DO NOT DELETE the mentioned values from the wiki!
> 
> cheers,
> Martin 
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Links:
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[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platter_lift
[2] http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Piste_Maps
[3] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/aerialway#values
[4] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/aerialway=drag_lift
[5] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/aerialway=platter
[6] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/aerialway=goods
[7] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/aerialway=t-bar
[8] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
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