[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Enhancing natural=peak tag

Daniel Koć daniel at xn--ko-wla.pl
Wed Jul 9 01:56:06 UTC 2014


W dniu 09.07.2014 2:56, John Packer napisał(a):
> Daniel, I don't know about standardization of rendering, but I would
> say the advice on the wiki is followed by OSM mappers much more often
> than some veterans think.

Still there are some notable cases when they're not. I wouldn't be 
interested in rendering now if I didn't have my "favorite" problems with 
it lasting for months or years, even those easy to fix. That includes 
fountains and at least rudimentary public_transport namespace 
representation - these are just examples I personally need and it 
wouldn't hurt anyone.

I try not to be overly negative with it (no matter how irritated I feel 
sometimes as a mapper =} ) and go the positive way, so I get involved in 
openstreetmap-carto. It's just my beginnings there, so I'll wait some 
time before saying anything conclusive, but for now I'm very surprised 
how the low hanging fruit can be not picked for so long without anybody 
noticing it, even if all the code is already waiting to be merged ( 
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/705 ).

For me it tells us clearly that at least we should track such things 
better. If we made just a simple wiki table named "Accepted propositions 
- rendering state" with current comments from rendering team ("done", 
"todo - from when", "wontfix - reasons", "undecided - problems to be 
solved"), it could help us connecting loose ends a lot! I can even do it 
myself, but I need to know it would be used at all. I don't know yet how 
big is the gap between default tagging and default rendering.

Yesterday I have watched Andy's workshop ( 
http://blog.gravitystorm.co.uk/2014/07/07/openstreetmap-carto-workshop/ 
) and while it was very interesting for me, the remark about the carto 
not being made for all the POI icons was against my intuition. I would 
fully agree if that meant simply "there's more to rendering than POI's", 
but I'm not sure. I would rather include all such icons in general, 
because there was a reason somebody wrote it, a community consensus was 
established and it immediately promotes using such quality-approved 
tags. If we want to avoid the clutter (which is a noble aim in itself), 
don't try to avoid it altogether, but rather set the reasonable zoom 
threshold.

I hope these are things we can fix soon, but for now some visible 
problems are still unresolved.

-- 
Mambałaga



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