[Tagging] "Relations are not categories" excepted for "type=network" ?

Marc Gemis marc.gemis at gmail.com
Wed Jul 16 09:07:44 UTC 2014


When the name, operator,etc. has to be moved down to the routes and nodes,
we have prefix all those tags with e.g. network.
So we get network:name,  network:operator on each node and route, right ?

Please note the network relations are not used to group all routes and
nodes in a country or province. When you are interested in the nodes &
routes of 1 network you can only do this via the name of the network.
So a spatial query won't help much in that case, although I admit that it
might not be interesting to limit the query to a specific network and not
to a geographical region.

BTW, I wouldn't mind to start using a tagging schema that doesn't use
network relations.

regards

m


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Pieren <pieren3 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:
> > The same is true for cycling and equestrian networks with numbered nodes.
> > There are a few of those networks in Germany as well.
> > These are not collections/categories. They are networks of route
> relations.
>
> Well, you could do the same for all McDonald's restaurants in
> Netherlands or all pharmacies in a network or bank branches in Belgium
> and say "we move one tag to the upper relation to avoid its
> repetition". What is done by such relations can be done by a query in
> the database with one or two arguments (like the "operator" or
> "network" tag) and a bbox (see XAPI, overpass, etc for more info).
> Repeating the network or operator or brand name is not a problem for
> many features in OSM. I don't see why we should create an exception
> for footway routes.
> As it was writen by Frederik Ramm in 2008 ([1]):
> "Our database is a spatial database; this means that it has intrinsic
> knowledge about the location of objects. If you want to know about all
> footways in East Anglia, simply pass in a bounding box of East Anglia
> and request all footways, and the collection is made for you
> on-the-fly."
>
> Pieren
>
> [1]
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Relations/Relations_are_not_Categories&oldid=179750
>
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