[Tagging] Synonymous values in the shop key

Elena ``of Valhalla'' elena.valhalla at gmail.com
Thu Jul 31 14:58:38 UTC 2014


On 2014-07-31 at 15:47:39 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> bars are another topic ;-)

and a confusing one :)

> The only thing you
> can be quite sure is that they all offer croissant for breakfast, and
> espresso / capuccino / caffè latte, soft drinks and alcoholics. 

that's basically it, with the caveat that sometimes the croissant can 
be very substandard, but most bars also sell something else (different
from each other)

> Some also
> sell lottery tickets, stamps, public transport tickets and tobacco (and
> allow you to pay your "home bills" like electricity and water). They hardly
> ever sell newspapers, and the newsagents won't typically sell lottery
> tickets, stamps, public transport tickets or tobacco.

to add to the confusion: in lombardy public transport tickets are
notusually sold by bars, but by newsagents, which also sell some kind of lottery
tickets ("gratta e vinci"), but not big lotteries nor stamps or tobacco.

> The main difference between a restaurant and a bar is that in the bar
> you'll pay typically in advance (for whatever), while there might be
> service to bring your food (especially if you have to wait). Also
> restaurants won't offer any of the additional services described above
> (tickets etc.).

Mostly the second one: most of the bars I know don't ask for payment in
advance, unless they are in an area with lots of customers (e.g. near 
a biggish railway station).

Restaurants are specialized on food for main means, however, while 
bars are much more varied in their services.

> Actually I have never tagged amenity=cafe, cuisine=ice_cream in Italy (but
> in Germany I did), because the typology here is different. (traditional,
> artisanal) ice cream is seen as a subproduct of pastry (pasticceria,
> de:Konditorei) and being relatively cheap (you can get a nice serving for
> 1,50EUR) people eat it a lot on the go (after lunch/dinner), while in
> Germany it is mostly seen as something either industrial or Italian (i.e.
> country specific specialty) ;-)

how do you tag an italian pasticceria? (of the kind that also serves 
coffee and read-to-eat pastry, not the "laboratori di pasticceria" 
where you buy things to bring home / elsewhere.

-- 
Elena ``of Valhalla''



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