[Tagging] RFC: Door Values

[fly]

Am 11.06.2014 13:44, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
> 2014-06-10 22:34 GMT+02:00 fly <lowflight66 at googlemail.com
>     Am 10.06.2014 21:51, schrieb Michael Maier:
>     > So I created a Proposal Page for the values of the 'door' key:
>     > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/door
>     >
>     > RFC phase is now open!
> 
>     I would not say that entrance=* implies door=yes. Did not find a word
>     about it on the wiki page. Please, just leave them as to separate tags.
> 
> +1
> 
>     I do not think that door=no is needed but that is only a minor issue.
>
> +1
> 
>     Myself does use barrier=door together with entrance=* though it is not
>     documented either.
>  
> +1, although it is not completely clear when to use barrier=door and
> when barrier=gate (at least not for me).

Yes, there is need of a clear separation.

For me:
* doors are always in connection with buildings
* doors are often smaller, e.g. as soon as a normal car is allowed/fits
throught, I call it a gate.
*

> There is also
> barrier=full_height_turnstile etc. which might have some overlap here.
> 
> I'd also like to point out that there are already ~6000 "door"s in our
> db (taginfo):
> yes <http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/door=yes>
> 	
> 5 562
> 81.54%
> 	
> -
> 	
> hinged <http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/door=hinged>
> 	
> 582
> 8.53%
> 	
> -
> 	
> manual <http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/door=manual>
> 	
> 378
> 5.54%
> 	
> -
> 	
> automatic <http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/door=automatic>
> 	
> 87
> 1.28%
> 	
> -	
>  
> hangable <http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/door=hangable>
> 	
> 83
> 1.22%
> 	
> -	
>  
> opening <http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/door=opening>
> 	
> 49
> 0.72%
> 	
> -
> 	
> if you forget about the "yes" there are quite a lot of "manual" and
> "automatic".
> My suggestion therefor is to be more explicit with the key identifiers, e.g.
> * door_type (or door:type) for hinged / sliding / revolving / ... 

+1 for door_type as it is much easier to start with a new tag compared
to changing an existing one.

> (still this is somehow ambiguous, because "type" might also be
> interpreted as "glass door", "wooden door", ...)

thought this would go under material or door:material

> I believe there could be also "lift_gate" (de: Hubtür) and
> "rolling_gate" (de: Rolltor) as suggested values.

lift_gate (de: Schranke) [1] and rolling_gate are gates not doors. Do
not know about rolling_door.

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I had a closer look at automatic_door=* which is by far an established
tag. It was introduced without proposal and shows only small numbers of use.

> * door_closer = * (for mechanisms that close the door automatically,
> values might be e.g. "electric", "mechanic", "no", "yes" etc.)
> 
> With respect to door_closer I'd also suggest to be more explicit with
> "automatic_door" (what is automatic: opening, closing, both? And how is
> the automation implemented). Not sure if an alternative key
> "door_opener" would be suitable for this (but it surely would be a good
> complement to door_closer).

Be carful, doors can be looked, too. You are talking about the operation
modes and not the locking system, I guess.


Cheers fly

[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier=lift_gate