[Tagging] path vs footway

John Willis johnw at mac.com
Sun Nov 30 04:13:25 UTC 2014


Interesting! Those are huge cycle ways! Here in japan, they designate small service roads normally blocked with bollards as cycle ways, as the distances covered between the intersecting roads are very long (1-2km sometimes) and sometimes more direct than the road system - but nothing more a path with a painted line - sometimes only 1m per lane (as it is a converted service road. 

For as much as Japan loves bikes, they usually don't give a care about making anything remotely purpose built in high traffic areas to avoid accidents - bike lanes are woefully inadequate as well. 

Javbw 


> On Nov 30, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 4:17 AM, Richard Mann <richard.mann.westoxford at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Interesting interpretation of history. Slightly different version:
>> 
>> The path tag was introduced by people who couldn't deal with highway=cycleway being shared with pedestrians, and wanted something less mode-specific than highway=footway and highway=cycleway.
> 
> This is actually an important distinction, as cycleways generally adhere to the applicable highway standards for lane widths, markings and signage, which are usually absent on smaller and/or more multimodally oriented spaces.   Compare a paved MUP looping your neighborhood park (which, odds are, is maybe 2-2.5m wide) compared to a cycleway with markings (which tends to be 2.5-3m wide, per lane).  Consider it the nonmotorized infrastructure distinction between highway=unclassified and highway=tertiary (or higher, when you start throwing on values greater than one for both lanes:forward and lanes:backward for more than turn:lanes:* or start dealing with divided multilane cycleways).
> 
>> Personally I use highway=footway+bicycle=yes if it's low quality and legal for cycling, and highway=cycleway (which implies foot=yes in the UK) if it's halfway decent for cycling. And highway=path in field and forest.
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> I'd avoid using highway=cycleway if it's not built primarily for a cyclist's benefit, readily identifiable with standard pavement markings and signage.  Granted, this means there's some decent chunks of infrastructure that end up highway=path; bicycle=designated; foot=designated that end up as major portions of a cycleway and/or hiking network.
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