[Tagging] Landuse vs Vegetation vs Landcover proposed cleanup at wiki

Никита acroq3 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 30 07:01:59 UTC 2014

We have highly inconsistent content at wiki (feature pages
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Features>). Inconsistency is
not limited to landuse=wood/natural=forest. Another example is
landuse=meadow (Landuse <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Landuse>,
Vegetation <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vegetation>, Landcover

We should think about how to organize content without collisions or at very
least place all problematic categories under same Feature
(semi-temporary, until we have better idea).

I suggest to use (at least temporary) new, broader group in Features
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Features> that will contain
all *=wood features. So end users can access single group instead of having
troubles where natural=forest belongs to.

Discussion at wiki is here
Please spread/translate this info.

Personally I suggest to use name "environment" - yes, it broader than
anything (Landuse <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Landuse>, Vegetation
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vegetation>, Landcover

It is also not limited to "Natural environment
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_environment>" (then we cannot use

It is not limited to "Physical environment
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecology#Physical_environments>" (we have
semi/virual features like landuse/amenity because

Nobody really cares to define their 1cm borders. But we have 1cm accuracy
in OSM. Even people who work with GIS systems/landuse databases do not have
that level of accuracy. Nobody want to update borders every season. Objects
in the real world change over time, every season. But this is ridiculous.to
ask people to update them. Despite fact OSM has pretty decent worldwide
coverage, we are not that big to update (almost everything) every

We will simply put problematic content (Landuse
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Landuse>, Vegetation
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vegetation>, Landcover
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Landcover>, with *=woods and meadows)
under same roof called "Environment". Despite fact that actually everything
around us can be placed in "Environment" it can answer really simple
questions: "How to map forest"?

Should user search forest in Landuse? Vegetation? Landcover? it is always
be Environment. Thee problematic features should be "dispromoted" from
Features <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Features> since they
don't provide answers to "Where to search for Meadow?" "Where to search for

I'm sorry but I hope my English was good enough to describe problem and
suggested solution.

Do we want to make these changes or if there better solution?
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