[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tagging for complex junctions or traffic signals that are named

fly lowflight66 at googlemail.com
Mon Sep 15 17:34:39 UTC 2014


Hey

Would it not be more straight forward to use junction=traffic_signal in
Japan and only use highway=traffic_signal for the real lights ?

Just my two ct
fly

Am 15.09.2014 19:24, schrieb Lukas Sommer:
> Okay, I’ve tried to work out more in detail idea 4. Please considere
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tagging_for_complex_junctions_or_traffic_signals_that_are_named
> and make comments.
> 
> Lukas Sommer
> 
> 2014-09-02 4:50 GMT+00:00 Satoshi IIDA <nyampire at gmail.com
> <mailto:nyampire at gmail.com>>:
> 
> 
>     Hello from Japan,
> 
>     > @Lukas are the names of the traffic signals/junctions actually used in
>     > addresses (and in principal would be a suitable value for addr:place in an address)?
>     No.
>     We realize the name of traffic signal only for routing and
>     navigation on local district.
>     It is very separated concept from "place" (residence of human kind)
>     tag or "addr:*" (postal delivery) tag.
> 
>     The name of traffic signal is not used as addressing system.
>     And if there are very dense traffic signals, occasionally the names
>     are like...
>     "XZY Conter(Chuo)", "XZY North", "XZY West", or so.
> 
>     # "XZY" is the name of place or district, like Roppongi or Akihabara.
> 
> 
>     Following maybe off topic...
>     Hence, some JP mappers had proposed "place=locality" for old/famous
>     name for mountain path crossing.
>     e.g. "XZY tsuji (辻, crossing)" or "XZY Touge (峠, peak)".
> 
>     They may be acceptable, because we realize them as old/famous place
>     name.
>     But I do not feel that it would not suite for modern traffic_signal
>     system.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     2014-08-26 6:34 GMT+09:00 Jean-Marc Liotier <jm at liotier.org
>     <mailto:jm at liotier.org>>:
> 
>         On 08/25/2014 11:09 PM, Lukas Sommer wrote:
> 
>             In Ivory Coast, you have addresses like “in front of the XYZ
>             crossroad” or “from XYZ crossroad 50 m towards the big
>             fueling station”. Rather a sort of instructions for getting
>             somewhere than an address in the european sense. Obviously
>             “from XYZ crossroad 50 m towards the big fueling station”
>             will be applied to various houses (usually, when you have
>             arrived, you make a phone call to the person that you want
>             to meet, and the person comes to the road to search you and
>             help you with the last part of the way – I can guarantee you
>             that this is very time-consuming ;-)
> 
> 
>         That said, people in quite a few African countries have a postal
>         address (PO box in most cases) distinct from the address of
>         their residence, so the problem of shoehorning directions in the
>         standard address fields of European-designed software is
>         side-stepped more often than not.
> 
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