[Tagging] New key proposal - paved=yes/no

Erik Johansson erjohan at gmail.com
Tue Sep 30 09:57:58 UTC 2014


These are more than 90% of values for surface, categorize them as
paved/unpaved the rest as unpaved.

surface=

asphalt
unpaved
paved
gravel
ground
dirt
grass
concrete
paving_stones
sand
cobblestone
compacted

paved=yes will remove then need for parsing those last % of surface=*
values, not sure it's worth it. To think that there is only one
definition of paved=yes, is a big mistake. There are few tags in OSM
that are specific enough to mean the same thing all over the world.



On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:42 AM, David Bannon <dbannon at internode.on.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-09-22 at 00:23 +0200, Tomasz Kaźmierczak wrote:
> ..A good suggestion ...
>
> So it seems that yet again, we are going to reject this attempt to solve
> a real problem. Looking at the neg replies, because its not useful for
> bike riders; not useful for a number of undefined edge cases; is a
> duplicate of surface=.
>
> Thats just plain not true ! There is no suggestion that paved= should be
> used instead of surface=. I use surface= on all unsealed roads I map and
> would continue to do so if I also used paved=no.
>
> But there are 34 official values for surface= and 3581 values used. It
> is very plain that the mapping community want surface= as a fine
> grained, very detailed key. And thats great, people making specialised
> maps or engines can use those values, display them in a meaningful way
> to people they understand. My data will help them.
>
> But the vast majority of people just want to know that the road may not
> be what they are used to. Thats all. And paved= does that easily.
>
> In places like Australia, that information can be a life or death thing.
> People die here because they are inexperienced or ill equipped for roads
> they tackle. Generally visitors from Europe or North America.
>
> Please folks, think of the big picture, not the edge cases.
>
> David
>
>
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