[Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

Bryce Nesbitt bryce2 at obviously.com
Tue Dec 1 08:34:03 UTC 2015


On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Andy Townsend <ajt1047 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My first thought is that even fewer people will understand what this is
> than understand what a "bicycle repair station" is.  As I said back in
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2015-November/027436.html
> I'd suggest that you try and understand what's happening rather than just
> picking another key name and hoping for the best.
>

I've now interacted with over a dozen mappers who used the original tag in
novel and interesting ways.  The old tag is interpreted wrongly across
continents, cultures and languages.
*I feel that I screwed up naming the tag in the original proposal, and now
I want to fix it.*

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I think most people have never encountered a self-service stand with bike
tools.  It's just not in their mental set.  Thus when the tag shows up in
their editor, they mentally map it to the thing they are actually mapping.

One of the nice things about the proposed schema is that it involves
*correctly* making *two* tagging operations
(the generic tool stand tag, plus the type of tools offered).  Any node
mapped without *both* is mechanically findable, and allows for deeper
investigation of mapper intent, and perhaps mapper-to-mapper
communication.  It raises the bar past the level of "iD brought this tag up
for me to use".

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My goal is to enable mobile apps useful to a stranded cyclist. * Thus
accuracy is key.*
The data is also used commercially (
http://www.dero.com/fixitmap/fixitmap.html - despite the lack of
attribution).
And in apps such as http://www.bikeaidapp.com/.

The current growth in awareness the tag is encouraging, but the error rate
is pointing toward eventual failure and irrelevance.
I'm not going to walk a mile with a broken bike, unless I'm pretty sure the
map is reliable.

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The scope of the tag is meant to be DIY tool stands, usually free, usually
open 24/7 or as long as the enclosing facility. Examples:

   - Bike tool stands (such as a "Dero Fixit" installed near bike trails)
   - Skateboard repair tools at a skatepark.
   - Ski/Snowboard tuning stations at ski areas or along winter trails.
   - Perhaps tools for removal or bending of fish hooks, at a fish cleaning
   station.
   - Maybe eyeglass repair tools, freely made available by an optometrist?

Tool lending libraries (
https://www.berkeleypubliclibrary.org/locations/tool-lending-library ) are
certainly interesting to map, but probably something different, as the
tools do not remain fixed in place.
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