[Tagging] Access restrictions for shoulder lanes?

Colin Smale colin.smale at xs4all.nl
Tue Feb 3 09:36:21 UTC 2015


On 2015-02-03 10:20, Paul Johnson wrote:

> On Feb 3, 2015 3:06 AM, "Colin Smale" <colin.smale at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> 
>> Surely there is never a law against breaking down.
> 
> And yet, in Oklahoma and Germany, it's considered preventable and, as 
> such, prohibited on roads with minimum posted limits. The irony of this 
> in a state known for having a high number of "rez cars" isn't lost 
> here... that said, on most highways with minimum speeds, there's 
> usually (but not always) a hard shoulder (on which you're expected to 
> use to find a good place off the pavement to put your vehicle until it 
> can be moved to a less dangerous).

"Preventable"? How does that look in law? Is that "Failure to maintain 
the vehicle" or what? What exactly will you get a ticket for?

>> Same thing really with emergency vehicles. There is no such thing as 
>> "emergency=no" - the police/ambulance etc will go wherever they need 
>> to if it is a real emergency. Therefore there cannot be any such thing 
>> as "emergency=yes", and hence "access=emergency" is effectively the 
>> same as "access=no". Discuss....

> Fixed concrete bollards, permanent barricades (used commonly at 
> permanently closed level crossings), K-rails, boulders and other fixed 
> barriers generally do not care if it's an emergency, they're still not 
> letting you through no matter how loud your siren is. And the way 
> they're blocking might still exist anyway, local example being a former 
> section of the Will Rogers Turnpike near Catoosa, OK.

Then they are access=no (with foot=yes or whatever as appropriate) or 
barrier=boulder. The way is blocked both for emergency services and mere 
mortals. No need for access=emergency.

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