[Tagging] [OSM-talk] Changeset messaging & Notes feature question

Dave F. davefox at madasafish.com
Fri Jan 9 12:21:10 UTC 2015


Apologies & Thanks.

On 09/01/2015 12:17, Dan S wrote:
> This appears to be nothing to do with "tagging" - you've presumably
> sent to this list by mistake...
>
> 2015-01-09 12:12 GMT+00:00 Dave F. <davefox at madasafish.com>:
>> On 01/01/2015 00:39, Tom Hughes wrote:
>>> On 01/01/15 00:36, Dave F. wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm struggling to comprehend how a button to turn off the notes layer,
>>>> that's separate (& hidden!) from the only obvious button to turn the
>>>> layer on can be described as 'logical' to an experienced user let alone
>>>> a newbie..
>>>
>>> Well the problem is that what you see as a "button to turn on the notes
>>> layer" is what I see as a "button to add a new note" ;-) That button was
>>> intended to encode the "add a note" action, not the "view notes" action.
>>
>> OK, but however you perceive it, it still activates the 'view notes'.
>> Although it adds clarity to do so, it's not essential to the 'add a note'
>> function.
>>
>>> If I just wanted to view existing notes I wouldn't use that button, I
>>> would open the layer switcher and turn on the notes layer.
>>
>> On a scale of 1 to 10, how obvious do you think that is to the user?
>>
>>>
>>>>> The problem with turning off the notes layer again when the add note
>>>>> control is disabled is that it might already have been on before you
>>>>> started adding a note, so we would probably have to remember if we had
>>>>> turned it on or if it was already on .
>>>>
>>>>> Trying to figure out what to do if somebody starts toggling the notes
>>>>> layers on and off manually while the add note control is active just
>>>>> introduces even more levels of complication...
>>>>
>>>> By 'we' do you mean the programmers? I hope not. It's not that
>>>> complicated! on/off, yes/no, 0/1 binary! It's the DNA of computers!
>>>
>>> No I'm not saying the programming is necessary complicated, I'm saying
>>> it's hard to know what the correct behaviour is from a UX point of view.
>>
>> I don't really see it as that confusing:
>>
>> I don't think the 'add note' button needs to turn on the 'view notes', but
>> lets assume it does:
>>
>> * The 'add note' button turns both the add & view layers on & should them
>> off again, except if 'view' was previously turned on via hidden option under
>> Layers. Then it should leave 'view' on.
>>
>> * If 'view' is turned off via the Layers menu while 'add' is visible, turn
>> 'view' off as it not directly linked or strictly needed to add a note.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Dave F.
>>
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