[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC: Reverse Vending Machine

[John Willis]

Would this be appropriate for the automated recycle centers that weigh recyclables and gave you credit? It is basically a dumpster with a scale and a terminal, but you leave behind cardboard, paper, etc for recycling. It's usually very limited in what they accept. 

Or is this thing just an automated recycle center, and different from what you guys are talking about? 

Javbw 

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> On Jan 11, 2015, at 11:00 PM, makko <makko at brainscorch.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 11.01.2015 14:34, Kotya Karapetyan wrote:
>> I like the proposal. In Germany and in the Netherlands these machines
>> are common and it is indeed important to know where one can find the
>> nearest one. They are usually not operator-specific, though the
>> voucher they issue can be redeemed only within the operator shop (or
>> network).
> 
> Indeed yes, but the machines are usually operated by a market chain and since I am always proclaiming that some operators only allow their own products to be refunded, we would at least need this option to keep the information about the operator.
> 
>> 
>> Remark 1: I wonder if we also want to indicate whether the machine is
>> inside or outside the shop and if it is accessible outside working
>> hours.
> 
> Good point. As far as I know these machines are always inside (at least in Germany, Denmark, and Finland). They are sometimes located inside of a market or in a separate small "room" that is accessible directly with its own opening hours.
> 
> I like the idea of using
> 
> amenity:refund_machine
> service:refund=yes
> refund:plastic_bottles=yes
> refund:glass_bottles=yes
> refund:cans=yes
> refund:crates=yes
> 
> Using the opening hours tag seems also appropriate, if the machine is located in its own room/building-part.
> 
> I reconsidered the idea of using vending_machine or shop as a "parent" tag for refund machines, since it just is not right. These machines are, as mentioned above, sometimes more separate and should not be mixed with normal "manual" refund services that shops offer.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Remark 2: Also some shops have multiple such machines (e.g. for glass
>> and plastic), and OSM tagging scheme doesn't allow assigning the same
>> key twice to one node. As a suggestion, we could ignore the fact that
>> these are two (or more) separate machines and map it as one.
> 
> This seems a bit unclean and a quick-fix. I would suggest to use the idea of ATM machines in this case and give each of those machines its own node. Especially since it happens that there are two machines, where only one of them accepts crates to be refunded ( see picture [1], taken in Finland). Furthermore, if people have a lot of refund to give, they might choose a refund point with at least 2 machines.
> 
> Regarding the recycle type tag, with the suggestion above, we wouldn't use the same key twice.
> 
> [1]  Reverse Vending Machines in Finland, one of which accepts crates: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bottle_reverse_vending_machines#mediaviewer/File:Pullonpalautusautomaatti.JPG
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