[Tagging] Tagging Voting system- time for reform?

[Paul Johnson]

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 7:37 PM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:

>  On 24/01/2015 11:51 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: ON the subject of
> man_made=tap
>
>  On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 2:16 AM, Pieren <pieren3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Kotya Karapetyan <kotya.lists at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > As of today, a total of 16 votes have been submitted, 11 of them are
>> > approvals. Since 2 weeks have passed and the required number of votes
>> > (15) has been reached, I have closed the voting and will proceed with
>> > clean up.
>>
>>
>  In fact, the proposal passed the wiki vote ONLY because the three people
> voted no at the
> last minute.  If it were not for those 'no' votes, the proposal would have
> failed.
>
>  All that shows in part how dysfunctional the wiki vote system is
>
> Here here!
> It also shows how dysfunctional this group is .. not many of you vote!
>

OK, well, I'm going to have to swap out my normal role as the crazy map bear
<http://hdyc.neis-one.org/?Paul%20Johnson> for a minute to be the unpopular
opinion puffin:  Nobody votes because it's a borderline pointless
endeavor.  And I don't mean like pointless like being one of the (far too
few) voters who isn't too insane or stupid to be able to hold down a day
job, yet willing to risk taking a half-day off work on a non-holiday
Tuesday off to actually go vote in Oklahoma, where voting could actually
have an impact if the non-insane idiot contingent could actually get a
quorum over the elections regulars.  But actually, entirely pointless,
since tags reach a uniform consensus not by how they're decreed in some
wiki through a convoluted proposal and elections process, but by people who
just start using them.

And it seems for the most part, the tags with the most staying power seem
to be ones that were natural fits, and *then* were documented *how they're
actually used* in the wiki retroactively.


> I would suggest
> 1) Continued membership of this group be conditional on voting on at least
> half the tags presented for voting over say the last year.
> 2) Rejoining members be conditional on voting on at least 8 of the next 10
> tags presented for voting.
> 3) Tag voting may only cease when at least 25%? of the tag group members
> have voted and 3? weeks have elapsed.
>

I say scrap the whole thing and let the wiki document the map much like the
map documents the ground truth.
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