[Tagging] Current status of the key smoothness=*

[Felix Hartmann]

+1

But make it 1-8 note grade1-grade8 for simplicity IMHO. The 
grade1-grade5 for tracktype is an error in itself...

It does not matter if it's easier or more difficult - the main thing is 
that people using it should know what they enter. With the current 
values like good some mappers just use it without knowing what is behind 
the value - therefore often rendering smoothness unusable - because the 
values are unrealiable.

On 12.03.2015 10:36, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
> 2015-03-11 23:15 GMT+01:00 David <dbannon at internode.on.net 
> <mailto:dbannon at internode.on.net>>:
>
>     I consider the definitions quite reasonable for this tag.
>     Yes,there is a degree of subjectiveness there,there has to be
>     given what it is trying to do. Honestly, we really need to got
>     over this dread fear of being subjective. Not everything can be
>     measured in integer numbers, great when it can be but accept it
>     when what is being described is, by its nature, difficult.
>
>
>
> +1, I believe that the main problem are the value names. If these were 
> called grade1 to grade8 many more people would likely use these values 
> and I guess there would be much fewer objections. The property of 
> smoothness is really quite important to many users of a road, in the 
> more extreme cases likely important to all.
> The thing is, that these verbal descriptions of a smoothness hierarchy 
> are mostly not easier to apply than any numeric scale. "Excellent", 
> "good" and "impassable" are exceptions, but you can't tell the 
> dfifference between "bad", "very_bad", "horrible" and "very_horrible" 
> without looking this up in the wiki.
>
> I suggest to add another column to the definition which is about 
> objective figures (without removing the use classes), e.g. the biggest 
> grain size you can frequently find on the road (i.e. the biggest rocks 
> / pebbles) and or the size of eventual cracks and holes, the steepness 
> of steps, height of humps, etc.
>
> cheers,
> Martin
>
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keep on biking and discovering new trails

Felix
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