[Tagging] Current status of the key smoothness=*

David dbannon at internode.on.net
Sat Mar 14 02:36:48 UTC 2015

> "And please do not claim that everyone will look in the wiki what the values actually mean. Please stay realistic ;-)"

Hmm, mappers or end users ?  Honestly, i don't consider either numeric or two or three word tags can be expected to convey enough info. So i would suggest most "primary" users do need to look at the wiki.

Given that, numeric tags would be better at forcing people to look at the wiki !  Words easier to guess and perhaps get wrong !  But I'd not promote that as a model, rest assured.

I don't feel strongly about numeric or word based values. Happy with either. So i will start a new thread to flush out who does.



Martin Vonwald <imagic.osm at gmail.com> wrote:

>2015-03-13 2:06 GMT+01:00 David <dbannon at internode.on.net>:
>> > No, numeric values are not a good choice - really not. I also don't like
>> the values much, but at least it's clear that "good" is better than "bad".
>> But Martin, its not a "good" or "bad" situation, thats the point. Some
>> people seek out extremely challenging roads to traverse. While dead smooth
>> is good while getting there, why bother to go there if its going to be
>> smooth all the way ?
>That's not what I meant. If someone has no idea about the meaning of the
>values and just look at the existing tags, one may guess correctly, that
>"good" means smoother than "bad". But what is smoother? grade1 or grade5?
>And please do not claim that everyone will look in the wiki what the values
>actually mean. Please stay realistic ;-)
>And to answer the next argument: but if people don't know the exact meaning
>and also don't look in the wiki, we can not be sure that they use the
>values correctly. Yes. We can also not be sure that they use the values
>correctly IF the look in the wiki. But the chances that we get more
>appropriate values is much higher with smoothness=good than with
>smoothness=grade97, because a "good smoothness" will have a much wider
>common understanding than "smoothness=31415whatever".
>Best regards,
>P.S: I'm aware that we will not reach consensus about this on this mailing
>list ;-)
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