[Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

Paul Johnson baloo at ursamundi.org
Mon Mar 30 06:35:24 UTC 2015

I tend to include Boy Scout camps when I find them because they're often
well-known landmarks.  Some that I've mapped include Camp Baldwin
<http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/30299988> (which I'd love to detail map
since I've spent around 100 nights at that camp alone now but the canopy's
too dense for me to recognize landmarks from above), Camp Russel
<http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/98826807> (a local Tulsa-area landmark,
which sadly had to be fenced in recently due to the college kids
vandalizing it frequently), and Will Rogers Scout Reservation
<http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/81176919> (which I've changed a couple
tires near thanks to a section of bad asphalt hiding a tire-bursting
pothole just west of Cleveland).

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Jan van Bekkum <jan.vanbekkum at gmail.com>

> I decided not to include the scout camp, because it then still might be
> confused with a place where ordinary campers can stay (like is the case
> with all options in the proposal). After the long discussion I have tried
> to keep the proposal as clean and simple as possible. I hope someone else
> will stand up to kick off the camp_site=* proposal for facility levels.
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:03 AM johnw <johnw at mac.com> wrote:
>> > On Mar 30, 2015, at 8:49 AM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 30/03/2015 10:14 AM, David Bannon wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I note you did not do 'scout camp' on there. Its equally specialised
>> but
>> >> a different special I think ?? Hmm....
>> >>
>> >> David
>> >>
>> >>
>> > From very distant memory those were temporary ..
>> > some times once only, sometimes once every few years.
>> > And they were restricted to scouts only .. thus access=scouts?
>> >
>> > From that perspective .. not something I'd map. If they are permanent
>> (repetitive even) then I'd map it .. but access=?
>> It’s access=private with operator= or something.
>> Scout Camps can be huge, with hundreds of people visiting year after
>> year, they become local, sometimes regional, landmarks.
>> And often times, even with smaller ones, the reason the people are going
>> to the area is because there is a scout camp.
>> The public map available for the California state park near my house
>> clearly labels the Boy Scout camp in the middle of it (with “private” under
>> the name, I think) because so many people are familiar with it’s location.
>> It might also be a labeled feature on USGS topo maps, but I could be wrong.
>> They are just private facilities, but they should be properly tagged as a
>> camp site, as people drive long distances to take scouts there, so they
>> should be searchable and routable.
>> Javbw
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