[Tagging] Camps

[David Bannon]

On Wed, 2015-05-06 at 12:45 +0000, Jerry Clough - OSM wrote:

> I am not talking about travellers, itinerant workers etc. That is a
> different issue. Such places (trailer parks, mobile home parks,
> travellers sites etc.) are a form of residential landuse.

Jerry, I suspect the distinction might be a bit US centric. Here, AU, we
have a large number of what we call Caravan Parks. They usually provide
mainly for tourists in caravans, motorhomes, tents. They usually have
some fixed "cabins" for hire to people without their own gear. Some
provide for 'permanent' residents, ranging from just a caravan that
stays there right through to standard sites (or pitches) for owner
occupied cabins, maybe with a nice little picket fence and tiny garden !

Now, I don't consider the permanent occupants are "camping" (nor
tourists) but we cannot exclude the Caravan Park itself from our
deliberations just because a few sites are used for that purpose.

Itinerant people use the Caravan Park in an almost identical way as do
tourists, the only difference is they are following the work (often
fruit picking etc) instead of the sun.

But Jerry, my real question was why are we talking about leisure= when
we were talking about tourism= ?  There is a large usage of tourism=
already there, almost no leisure=. 

David
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> From: David Bannon <dbannon at internode.on.net>
> To: Jerry Clough - OSM <sk53_osm at yahoo.co.uk>; "Tag discussion,
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> Sent: Wednesday, 6 May 2015, 0:08
> Subject: Re: [Tagging] Camps
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> On Tue, 2015-05-05 at 09:44 +0000, Jerry Clough - OSM wrote:
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> >  It seems to me that the obvious generalisation, which would cover
> > camps organised for profit and by non-profits would be
> > leisure=vacation_camp. 
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> I don't think 'vacation' or 'leisure' are good terms at all. A lot of
> people use the camp grounds we are talking about who are not on
> vacation, retirees, itinerant workers, travellers.  These grounds are
> 'mostly' open throughout the year in my part of the world.
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> tourism= means people are there because they want to be and I think
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> excludes refugee and military camps. Scout camps a bit grey ....
> Maybe the key is that people don't stay there indefinitely ?
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> > ... very specific British connotations associated with 
> >  holiday_camp. 
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> Yes, I would consider the british holiday camps would be better called
> resorts (?). The permanent building being the clue. 
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> > In general I would use any derivative of "resort" : it is a word
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> Did you mean to say "avoid the use of " there ?
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> So, in summary, why are we discussing abandoning or supplementing
> tourism=camp_site ?
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