[Tagging] housenumber on node and area

[Chris Fleming]

Fundamentally, there isn't a single answer to this problem. The answer we
have developed in Edinburgh is to place a node on the building where the
entrance is, this is largely because a single building will Costa n many
door as well as shops etc. Shops are added as nodes set back I not the
building. The idea is that there is usually a single point you would expect
to be routed to when going to an address.

Cheers
Chris
On Thu, 21 May 2015 at 17:30, Ross <info at 4x4falcon.com> wrote:

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> On 21/05/15 20:16, pmailkeey . wrote:
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> On 21 May 2015 at 02:08, Ross <info at 4x4falcon.com> wrote:
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>> On 21/05/15 09:51, pmailkeey . wrote:
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>> On 20 May 2015 at 14:10, André Pirard <A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>  Hi,
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>>> We know that addr:housenumber
>>> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr>=* can be tagged on nodes
>>> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses#How_to_map_addresses> and
>>> that it's very convenient.
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>>  But wrong.
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>>  Why?  It's all very well that this may be you opinion but the wiki and
>> accepted practice says otherwise.
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>  Address = building = area, not node. It's 'accepted' as a second best
> option for where a building hasn't been drawn. I find quite a lot of them
> and remove them by transferring the data to the buildings - sometimes
> there's a building and a loose node containing the same data! In those
> cases, a simple node deletion is required.
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> Where is it accepted?
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> Australian addresses refer to the property only and a property may have
> several buildings.
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> I can show you plenty of locations where there is no building but it still
> has an address, or the property is so large that the access from the
> street/road is 50km from the only building on the property and if you were
> routing to the address you'd never get there if the address was on the
> building.
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> As someone else also pointed out, accepted practice in different countries
> varies.
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> Open address data in Australia is point (node) data and specifies what
> type of address it is, eg "Driveway frontage", "Building Centroid",
> "Property Centroid", "Property Access Point", to name a few.
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> The most significant of these is the "Property Access Point" it tends to
> occur where a property has an address in one street but because of
> different reasons (cliff, drainage, etc) the actual access is from another
> street, usually via a right of way.
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> IMO addresses should be on nodes only and should show were you access the
> property (type "Driveway frontage", "Property Access Point", "Building
> Access Point") without anything else on the node.  This way when you use a
> router it takes you to where you access the property.  This also covers the
> accessibility issues for disabled access.
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> Cheers
>
> Ross
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