[Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Sat Oct 3 12:22:36 UTC 2015


On 3/10/2015 6:41 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 16:38:52 +1000
> Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 3/10/2015 4:23 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
>>> On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 13:14:15 +0900
>>> johnw <johnw at mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> suggests replacement of
>>>>> waterway=wadi and waterway=drystream
>>>>> with
>>>>> waterway=river or stream
>>>> This is idiotic.
>>>>
>>>> I’m going to start tagging Interstate 5 in San Diego as an
>>>> intermittent river that just happens to be a motorway 99.95 percent
>>>> of it’s life. I have hydroplaned down it for a good mile or so, so
>>>> I’m going to say that is good enough to constitute an intermittent
>>>> river.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A wash/wadi is a feature created /changed by water but used and
>>>> navigated as a dry feature. it very very rarely has water.
>>>>
>>>> I’m guessing the people who are interested in tagging
>>>> “drystreams” (the fisrt time I have heard that), are not really
>>>> familiar with what a wadi or a wash is, nor have spent time in them
>>>> during their dominant dry state (nor seen them catastrophically
>>>> flood).

Lake Eyre has been used to set a land speed record ...
of course the weather being what the weather is ... it got wet which delayed the record setting activities for quote some time.
(The lake has no drain .. just evaporation.)

I have never driven on it... salt is fairly corrosive. And you cannot tell if the surface will support the weight until you test it.
Of course  water to wash a vehicle is hard to find out there!

I have seen the result of people driving on a salt pan ... for 'fun'.
They spent quite a time getting out, and an unexpected laundry wash shortly afterwards.
They were lucky the laundry was such a short distance away .. only 150 kms.
I wonder what happened to that vehicle... must try not to buy that one.

Maybe I too should tag Lake Eyre as a highway area .. access permissive?;-)   
I'm sure the local pub would approve, but the local National Parks people would be upset. The local cop is too far away... I think.
  

>>> Where wiki recommends converting all waterway=wadi to
>>> waterway=river or stream with intermittent=yes?
>>>
>>> On http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Dwadi there is
>>> "For intermittent waterways use waterway=river/waterway=stream +
>>> intermittent=yes. For valleys natural=valley"
>> True ..
>> but on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:waterway
>> "It has been recommended to stop using this tag. Use a combination of
>> /waterway=river/ and /intermittent=yes/ instead."
>>
>> Looks like that has been there since 2008.
> (a) Good catch. I attempted to improve it in
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Map_Features:waterway&diff=1224534&oldid=1224466
>
> (b) Thanks to overly complex templating real history is at
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Map_Features:waterway&action=history

It will be better after 'our improvements', one hopes. Of course others may change it latter too... hopefully it won't get worse.
It might be better to send them to the key page .. and keep it all in one place.
Humm .. on the key page .. how about a link the the relevant map feature's page .. ? I'll sleep on it.




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