[Tagging] new access value

Richard ricoz.osm at gmail.com
Mon Oct 5 14:36:35 UTC 2015

On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 12:01:57PM +0200, Friedrich Volkmann wrote:
> I intend to write a proposal for a new access=* value, but I don't know a
> reasonable tag name. So I'm asking you for suggestions.
> We need the tag for Austrian road signs labelled "ausgenommen
> Anrainerverkehr" or "ausgenommen Anliegerverkehr", where "ausgenommen" means
> "excepted" and "Anrainerverkehr" or "Anliegerverkehr" is the word I am
> struggling to translate. These signs are mostly used in conjunction with [no
> vehicles] or [no motor vehicles] signs.
> There are similar signs in Germany and Switzerland, although there has been
> some debate whether the terms mean the same thing. So I am primarily
> considering Austrian jurisdiction by now. The Germans or Swiss can then
> decide whether they use the new access value or not.
> The meaning is a superset of
> access=private/customers/delivery/agricultural/forestry. Everyone is
> permitted to use the feature (road) if - and only if - he is either a
> resident or owner of adjacent property or if he is aiming to get in contact
> or business with a resident or owner.
> So if you own the property beside the street, you are permitted to use the
> street.
> If you want to visit a resident for a talk, you are permitted.
> If you are delivering to a resident, you are permitted.
> Hotel guests are permitted.
> If you want to visit a shop, you are permitted.
> If you want to visit someone who turns out to be not at home, you are
> permitted anyway because you could not know.
> But you are *not* permitted to drive in if you just want to park your car
> there and take a walk.
> Or if you are intending to drive through without being a resident/owner.
> Or if you want to shoot photos of the buildings, without visiting them.
> Or if you do some mapping for OSM.

The information about the traffic sign is useful, so it should be mapped as
such. The permission is not useful in my opinion ... just trying to imagine 
the poor router trying to decide how to route such an area.


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