[Tagging] Shop values review

Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist at gmail.com
Thu Oct 8 08:08:13 UTC 2015


2015-10-07 20:26 GMT+02:00 Matthijs Melissen <info at matthijsmelissen.nl>:

> On 7 October 2015 at 15:58, Daniel Koć <daniel at koć.pl> wrote:
> > builder
>
> Not sure what this is used for.
>


neither am I. Maybe it's for developers that have public-facing offices to
present their future projects and search for clients. Similar to an estate
agent, but selling estates that often don't exist yet.



>
> > building_materials
>
> Possibly duplicate with shop=doityourself, not sure though.
>


"doityourself" could mean different things: here are shops where you can go
and do your own woodwork in their workshop, using their tools, possibly
buying wood from them, and paying for using the place. It could also mean a
shop that sells tools and materials for doing some work (paper / wood /
etc.). A shop that sells "building materials" is likely selling different
stuff like mortar, bricks, cement, scaffolding, insulation material,
drywall material, tiles, maybe metal pieces for junctions like screws,
nails, consoles, maybe machinery, maybe rent machinery



>
> > craft
>
> I use this for shops selling coloured paper, glue, knitting supplies etc.
>


I'd call them stationery (well, if they sell knitting supplies and sewing
stuff, etc. maybe yet another tag might make sense, "craft" is too generic
to make sense IMHO).




>
> > discount
>
> I use shop=variety_store instead, but some mappers split the two
> categories.
>


I agree that "discount" is not clear in meaning (could be a discout
supermarket, a discount clothes shop, a kind of variety store or yet
another kind of shop)



>
> > energy
>
> Likely used for public-facing offices of energy suppliers, especially
> in countries where there is a free energy market so people might
> actually be 'shopping' for an energy provider.
>


+1, that's also what I think. Like a phone shop which sells you a phone
contract.


> games
>
> Makes sense.
>


yes, might even be further refined if specialized (e.g. electronic games
like pc games and console games, table top games, role playing games, ...)




> > market
>
> Probably used for market halls. Might be a lesser used alternative of
> amenity=marketplace.
>


IMHO it would be a misnamer then, because market halls are not shops, they
are buildings where individual booths are set up (which might be seen as
shops themselves)



> > rental
>
> I would use office=estate_agent for this as well.
>
>

Seems unclear what kind of stuff is for rent there. I'd discourage use of
this tag and propose to use an attribute instead (e.g. rental=yes/no/only)
together with a tag that says what's the product.




> > salon
>
> Lesser used alternative of shop=hairdresser.
>


also unclear, should be discouraged




>
> > shoe_repair
>
> Lesser used alternative of shop=shoemaker.
>


literally there's a difference, practically likely not.




> > appliance - wiki redirects to electronics, so maybe deprecate and propose
> > electronics instead?
>
> Agree.
>


there's a difference between electronics and appliances. I wouldn't see
washing machines, dish washers, fridges, electric heating, but also smaller
stuff like flattening irons, hairdryers, blenders, toasters, microwaves,
electrical toothbrushs, you name it, as electronics even if nowadays they
might include a fair amount of electronic components.



>
> > communication - wiki redirects to mobile_phone, so maybe deprecate and
> > propose mobile_phone?
>

> No, shop=communication is used for places where you can go to and call
> abroad cheaply. Mainly common in places with many immigrants.
>


maybe some of them are also tagged as shop=phone.



>
> > general - deprecate and propose to look for other shop values (like
> "yes")?
>
> Not sure.
>


a general store is a specific kind of shop, maybe it would be more clear if
the tag was "general_store" rather than "general"?


> interior_decoration - houseware?
>
> No, I use houseware for shops were you can buy practical stuff such as
> pots, bins, and brooms, while I use interior_decoration for shops
>


+1, decoration is quite different than practically useful objects like pans
and pots.



>
> > office_supplies - stationery?
>
> Likely yes (although people state that shops like Staples also sell
> printers etc., and that that goes beyond what a stationery shop would
> sell).
>


I'd not conflate them, the subtle difference could be useful when you
search for a shop to buy specific things.



> > printing - copyshop?
>
> Agree.
>


if they don't offer "copying"? Copyshop would seem wrong in these cases.




>
> > radiotechnics - electronics?
>


no, there might be small overlap in what they sell but these will be
completely different kinds of shops from my experience.




> > sewing - maybe tailor?
>
> No, in a sewing shop you can buy threads and needles, in a tailor you
> can get your clothes fixed.
>


+1

cheers,
Martin
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