[Tagging] Orchards and their crops
johnw
johnw at mac.com
Wed Sep 16 05:33:52 UTC 2015
> On Sep 15, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Jerry Clough - OSM <sk53_osm at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> No there is nothing I'm aware of which discriminates anywhere between cultivated pears in general (Pyrus communis) & specific cultivars ('Conference' <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conference_pear>). Cultivar just is shorthand for "cultivated variety" so of course there is no hierarchy variety=>cultivar.
I guess I was looking for an idea of where people draw the lines between the trees, like we can with potatoes and sweet potatoes. I know there are many many kinds of both, but usually they can easily be divided into two groups, because we can say that a potato and a sweet potato are commonly referred to by those two separate names, and usually not confused with each other by the people that grow them and consume them.
I am very comfortable throwing all grapes into “grapevines” or all oranges into “orange_trees” - but I don’t know about some obviously different fruits that share the same words - Asian pears look different, taste different - and most importantly - not considered a “pear” by the people that grow them - “pears” are “western pears” to them. So I feel comfortable saying that having “pear_trees” and “sand_pear_trees” is a good idea.
But when it comes to all the other trees I have never heard of until I was cleaning up that list (is a "Governor’s plum" a plum? Is a “Custard Apple” an Apple?), I was looking to see if there is some known way of putting the trees into usable categories or types for mapping without having people suggest them one by one - otherwise we’ll get odd regional or slang names - or things possibly grouped by distant mappers who don’t understand the nuances - like me with some of these trees.
Javbw
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