[Tagging] Do-it-yourself versus hardware stores

johnw johnw at mac.com
Sat Feb 13 05:34:49 UTC 2016

inline as well:

> On Feb 13, 2016, at 8:09 AM, Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> So:
>> Builder supply : focus on materials/piping/whatever their specialty (Tile, rock, lumber), excluding the finished goods stores (appliance, etc) 
>> Hardware stores : focus on tools/consumables. 
>> DIY store: focus on both materials & tools (fixtures, appliances as well)
> Sounds good... I think the scale of the operation might/should come into it somewhere. A simple hardware store may have one tin of each colour of paint, but would offer to get you a larger quantity "in a couple of days". A Builders merchant might have hundreds of tins in stock.

focus on “supplies” at a builder supply shop would imply such a stock. Hardware stores are often ordering the paint for you from a B2B vendor and drop-shipping it to you.

>> Drawing a couple lines in the sand like these should be pretty easy, especially if we remove large B2B only places from retail (because that is clearly not retail) and push them over into commercial. This would cover supply warehouses and other large scale commercial B2B vendors who do not operate retail/public locations. 
>> Thoughts? 
> I agree that "shop" implies retail, so b2b only is not a shop in that sense. But if the clientele is the only difference, shouldn't we tag them the same except for that factor (access=public/business or some such)?

to me, a commercial B2B distribution warehouse is commercial (landuse & buildings) - and the 3 mentioned above is retail and uses the shop=* tag. 


Today, I went to my local DIY store. I needed some stuff. https://goo.gl/maps/LVqbhyYdVwT2 <https://goo.gl/maps/LVqbhyYdVwT2>

As a guy who went to Home Depot a lot in the US - these “Japanese DIY stores” (they put DIY on the outside of the building) Usually have a lot more… “home goods” like you would find in department store. They have a pet center, a watch counter, pots and pans, bicycles, curtains and bedding. And 4 isles of screws and bolts, farming supplies, and a large amount of power tools. It’s like Home Depot and a Target had a kid - Joyful Honda even moreso. (None of them include clothing, though). 

The more I think about it, we probably need to approach this in two ways:

#1 ) as discussed, develop borad categories to classify stores (hardware/ builder supply / DIY) 

#2 ) come up with descriptions for sections (usually what the isles would be named) for more detailed mapping. I assume for home stores and DIY with might be 100 different categories. 

The advantage of #1 is people can easily map regional assumptions onto the stores, but they broadly match each other. (both are a little different). 

the advantage of #2 is people who care or the shop owners can easily add what they do and do not carry via shop:sells:dimentional_framing_lumber=yes or shop:sells:bathroom_fixtures=no, and regional search terms can be mapped via the shop:ja:sells:自転車=yes (bicycles) can be added if needed. This will allow for more fine grained searches (and addition of regional, undefined things, like a kimono shop). a search for bicycle shop would return stand-alone bicycle shops AND the home store where most people actually buy a bike. 

We will eventually have to make a list like this for most categories of things sold (all 3000 of them?), so setting up #1 and preparing for #2 is a good idea. 


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