[Tagging] Removing name_1 and alt_name_1 from Wiki

[Colin Smale]

Exactly. 

If a missing value (i.e. use the default) is not the same as explicitly
having NO value, how do you override the default with "no value"?

--colin 

On 2016-01-20 08:50, Gerd Petermann wrote:

> I don't think that the meaning really depends on the position. My understanding is that the 
> 
> complete value (e.g. "80||" ) is parsed by splitting it into separate strings at each pipe symbol. 
> 
> Result: three strings: "80" , "","" 
> 
> The value "|80|" also gives three strings: "","80","" 
> 
> Another point is that an empty value means "use the default", which can 
> 
> only make sense in special cases  like this. 
> 
> Gerd 
> 
> -------------------------
> 
> VON: Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl>
> GESENDET: Mittwoch, 20. Januar 2016 08:23
> AN: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
> BETREFF: Re: [Tagging] Removing name_1 and alt_name_1 from Wiki 
> 
> I meant that there is a value missing "between the pipes", which at a slightly higher semantic level can mean "use the default". A definition which varies according to position doesn't feel well-formed to me.
> 
> //colin 
> 
> On 2016-01-20 08:10, Gerd Petermann wrote: 
> Colin Smale wrote The "lanes" tag family uses a different delimiter ("|"), sometimes
> together with a semicolon to make a kind of 2-d array. A double pipe
> ("||") indicates a missing value there. Wouldn't it be nice if we were
> consistent? 
> That is new to me. My understanding of a double pipe is that described here:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/lanes_General_Extension#Default_values 
> 
> Proposed features/lanes General Extension - OpenStreetMap Wiki [1] 
> wiki.openstreetmap.org 
> A simple, straightforward extension of existing tags to specify properties not only for a way as whole but for the lanes of the way instead. Based on this general ... 
> 
> which indicates that a double pipe means one or two default values,
> depending on the position.
> At the end of the value, it means two default values.
> 
> Gerd
> 
> --
> View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Removing-name-1-and-alt-name-1-from-Wiki-tp5864465p5865207.html [2]
> Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Tagging mailing list
> Tagging at openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

_______________________________________________
Tagging mailing list
Tagging at openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging 

Links:
------
[1]
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/lanes_General_Extension#Default_values
[2]
http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Removing-name-1-and-alt-name-1-from-Wiki-tp5864465p5865207.html
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/attachments/20160120/0b49f258/attachment-0001.html>