[Tagging] New tag for major recipient postcodes

[Rainer]

Thinking about contact:addr:*, that sounds like a good idea.

So it would be contact:addr:postcode_major_recipient

Advantage is that it describes the purpose to be used for contacting the 
company, authority, hospital or whatever POI, but not e.g. for 
navigation, because it doesn't have a geographic location.
I would avoid a too generic tag like non-geographic postcode, because it 
is used on POIs and any map that is made from OSM data would show it and 
any user of such POI information wouldn't know, what it is.

- Rainer


Am 19.12.2017 10:50, schrieb althio:
> I think one mapping practice with contact:* could help .
>
> 1- addr:* tag space is for generic addresses, used by all consumers
>
> 2- if there is ambiguity between adresses (postal, physical, ...) then
> use several namespaces
> 2a - addr:* tag space for physical address (used by geocoding, routing, ...)
> 2a - contact:addr:* space for contact (postal) address (used for
> detailed information about one POI)
>
> if 2a is not suitable, consider any of:
> physical:addr vs [contact|post|postal|snailmail]:addr
>
> -- althio
>
>
> On 18 December 2017 at 20:43, Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch> wrote:
>>
>> Am 17.12.2017 um 21:22 schrieb Warin:
>>
>> As they are not related to a physical address then why use the address
>> space?
>>
>> The addr tag space is for postal addresses, that are not guaranteed to be
>> physical at all (for example addr:city is the postal city, which might be
>> completely un-surveyable).
>>
>> That is not really a problem, the problem is more that we don't have a
>> scheme for non-postal addresses.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>> Possibly the contact space? contact:mail:postcode=*
>>
>> -----------------
>> I believe 1800 numbers cannot be used internationally, so I don't use the
>> ISD codes, that OSM requests, with these.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18-Dec-17 12:36 AM, José G Moya Y. wrote:
>>
>> Do you mean PO box? In some cities, massive PO boxes have a special Zip
>> code/ postal code. It could be a property of the PObox address.
>>
>> Maybe an attribute at the POI is right, as POI use to list email addresses
>> and web addresses, which are independent from actual physical address (as PO
>> boxes are), also.
>>
>> National-wide phone numbers treated (such as +1-800-x in USA, cellphones,
>> "vocal nomad" numbers (+34-51-xx in Spain, if I remember well)  are unlinked
>> to physical addresses too. Are they directions about how to use it?
>>
>>
>>
>> El 17/12/2017 13:58, "Tom Pfeifer" <t.pfeifer at computer.org> escribió:
>>> As these postcodes are kind of a virtual address that is not tied to a
>>> particular pysical location, my opinion would be _not to add them to OSM_,
>>> which is a geo database and not primarily a post code reference database.
>>>
>>> Typically for those companies in DE, there is an additional physical
>>> address which has a different postcode for the street address, which is
>>> regularly tagged on the physical location.
>>>
>>> tom
>>>
>>> On 17.12.2017 13:42, Rainer wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> recently I came across postal codes in POI addresses, which aren't the
>>>> classic scheme addr:postcode & addr:city & addr:street & addr:housenumber.
>>>> However it is a special postcode that is assigned to recipients that receive
>>>> a big amount of post every day, typically big companies or authorities. This
>>>> kind of postcode is used only together with addr:city and does not require
>>>> street and housenumber. So to say the post company has a big sack for post
>>>> to that special postcode, puts in all the letters that are addressed to it
>>>> and delivers the sack to the recipient.
>>>> After some discussion in the german user forum
>>>> https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=60421 I want to propose a
>>>> tag for this kind of postcode and would like to discuss it here in the
>>>> tagging mailing list.
>>>>
>>>> The proposal is:  addr:postcode_major_recipient
>>>>
>>>> It should be used on POIs, because it is an attribute of the company,
>>>> authority or whatever, but not as an address of a building, because it is
>>>> not assigned to such directly. Target is to have a separate tag for this
>>>> kind of postcode to avoid a mix-up with the normal addr:postcode.
>>>>
>>>> As I am not a native British English speaker, I have asked one and
>>>> consulted the english page of the Deutsche Post. Reference:
>>>> https://www.postdirekt.de/plzserver/PlzSearchServlet?lang=en_GB -> goto More
>>>> -> Find major recipient
>>>>
>>>> Probably similar kinds of postcodes exist also in other post companies in
>>>> other countries, so inputs about that are welcome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Rainer
>>>
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