[Tagging] Produce tags for orchards

Paul Desgranges paul.desgranges at gmail.com
Fri Jul 28 14:31:41 UTC 2017


Hello
Orchards contain trees and this is what can be seen on landscape, if you do
a survey.

>From trees you can get some fruits, but it is once in a while, the crop is
only once per year, and only if you get lucky, some years there is nothing,
depending on wheather conditions.

Therefore the tag 'trees' seems better to me.

The farm produces something, and the tag 'produce' seems better (to me) for
a farm than for an 'orchard'.





Le 28 juil. 2017 1:44 AM, "Dave Swarthout" <daveswarthout at gmail.com> a
écrit :

Agree with Warin, who wrote:

Looking at the wider application to farmland leads to things like potatoes,
these are not trees.
The  use of the tag tree for things like strawberry plants is not good.
They are NOT trees!
Other plants, such as 'shrubs' too are being tagged as 'trees' too.
Personally I prefer the key 'produce' as it does mean what leaves the farm
(or orchard).
These is also no problem with produce such as milk - tree=milk or crop=milk
make no sense.
Then there are palm trees that produce dates ...

+1
If you want to keep it simple .. I think 'produce' is best.

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 28-Jul-17 07:05 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 27 July 2017, Tobias Zwick wrote:
>>
>>> Together with Roland Krüger, I am in the process of letting users of
>>> StreetComplete, a surveyor app for OpenStreetMap, specify the produce
>>> of orchards.[1]
>>> We did a lot of research on which plants are grown on orchards [2]
>>> and are now at the point where we need to decide how these should be
>>> tagged.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, there are *three* competing keys to describe basically
>>> the same things (for orchards). Neither of these is deprecated, all
>>> are in use: trees, crop and produce.
>>>
>> Taginfo is your friend to find out what tags are most commonly used.
>>
>
> The frequency of use can be influenced by;
>
> the date of the tags creation - the earlier a tag is created the more use
> it can have over a 'better' tag created later
>
> the pre-sets of editors - these can be the opinion of one person.
>
> I would not place too much importance on the amount of use by itself.
>
>
>
>>
>> Safe to say that trees=* is the dominating method to tag what is grown
>> in an orchard.
>>
>
>
> Looking at the wider application to farmland leads to things like
> potatoes, these are not trees.
>
> The  use of the tag tree for things like strawberry plants is not good.
> They are NOT trees!
>
> Other plants, such as 'shrubs' too are being tagged as 'trees' too.
>
> Personally I prefer the key 'produce' as it does mean what leaves the farm
> (or orchard).
> These is also no problem with produce such as milk - tree=milk or
> crop=milk make no sense.
> Then there are palm trees that produce dates ...
>
> If you want to keep it simple .. I think 'produce' is best.
>
>
>
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