[Tagging] Produce tags for orchards

[Tobias Zwick]

I find to tag the crop / produce of farmland is rather ineffective, as
the actual crop being cultivated can and will change over the years or
even multiple times a year. (See "crop rotation")

The only place where it makes sense to specify the production in my
opinion, are plantation where perennial plants are grown (orchards in my
definition).

> From trees you can get some fruits, but it is once in a while, the
> crop is only once per year, and only if you get lucky, some years
> there is nothing, depending on wheather conditions.

Not sure if I can follow this line of thought. If bad weather may affect
the harvest of i.e. cherries, then the same weather can affect the
harvest of cereals. But crop/produce doesn't say anything about the
quantity of production. If the year was bad, there will only be few
cherries. Doesn't change the fact that this orchard produces cherries.

Tobias


On 28/07/2017 16:31, Paul Desgranges wrote:
> Hello 
> Orchards contain trees and this is what can be seen on landscape, if you
> do a survey. 
> 
> From trees you can get some fruits, but it is once in a while, the crop
> is only once per year, and only if you get lucky, some years there is
> nothing, depending on wheather conditions. 
> 
> Therefore the tag 'trees' seems better to me. 
> 
> The farm produces something, and the tag 'produce' seems better (to me)
> for a farm than for an 'orchard'. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Le 28 juil. 2017 1:44 AM, "Dave Swarthout" <daveswarthout at gmail.com
> <mailto:daveswarthout at gmail.com>> a écrit :
> 
>     Agree with Warin, who wrote:
> 
>     Looking at the wider application to farmland leads to things like
>     potatoes, these are not trees.
>     The  use of the tag tree for things like strawberry plants is not
>     good. They are NOT trees!
>     Other plants, such as 'shrubs' too are being tagged as 'trees' too.
>     Personally I prefer the key 'produce' as it does mean what leaves
>     the farm (or orchard).
>     These is also no problem with produce such as milk - tree=milk or
>     crop=milk make no sense.
>     Then there are palm trees that produce dates ...
> 
>     +1   
>     If you want to keep it simple .. I think 'produce' is best.
> 
>     On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com
>     <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>         On 28-Jul-17 07:05 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote:
> 
>             On Thursday 27 July 2017, Tobias Zwick wrote:
> 
>                 Together with Roland Krüger, I am in the process of
>                 letting users of
>                 StreetComplete, a surveyor app for OpenStreetMap,
>                 specify the produce
>                 of orchards.[1]
>                 We did a lot of research on which plants are grown on
>                 orchards [2]
>                 and are now at the point where we need to decide how
>                 these should be
>                 tagged.
> 
>                 Unfortunately, there are *three* competing keys to
>                 describe basically
>                 the same things (for orchards). Neither of these is
>                 deprecated, all
>                 are in use: trees, crop and produce.
> 
>             Taginfo is your friend to find out what tags are most
>             commonly used.
> 
> 
>         The frequency of use can be influenced by;
> 
>         the date of the tags creation - the earlier a tag is created the
>         more use it can have over a 'better' tag created later
> 
>         the pre-sets of editors - these can be the opinion of one person.
> 
>         I would not place too much importance on the amount of use by
>         itself.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>             Safe to say that trees=* is the dominating method to tag
>             what is grown
>             in an orchard.
> 
> 
> 
>         Looking at the wider application to farmland leads to things
>         like potatoes, these are not trees.
> 
>         The  use of the tag tree for things like strawberry plants is
>         not good. They are NOT trees!
> 
>         Other plants, such as 'shrubs' too are being tagged as 'trees' too.
> 
>         Personally I prefer the key 'produce' as it does mean what
>         leaves the farm (or orchard).
>         These is also no problem with produce such as milk - tree=milk
>         or crop=milk make no sense.
>         Then there are palm trees that produce dates ...
> 
>         If you want to keep it simple .. I think 'produce' is best.
> 
> 
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