[Tagging] Undiscussed changes for wki pages about access mode "designated".

Frederik Ramm frederik at remote.org
Fri Mar 10 19:25:17 UTC 2017


On 03/10/2017 08:05 PM, Mariusz wrote:
> Please note that due to recent changes by user Verdy_p the "designated"
> value for various access key has been apparently marked as deprecated.
> Pages affected:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:access%3Ddesignated

The user Verdy_p changes about 200 wiki pages every day, and none of his
changes are usually discussed before he applies them. I have no idea if
the overall quality is good or bad but there's hardly a day without
someone complaining.

As far as I can see the change you are referring to is


before that, "access=designated" wasn't even on the "Key:access" page,
and Verdy_p added it there:

''(disapproved)'' A preferred or designated route for the class of
traffic specified by the tag key, such as {{tag|foot|designated}}. Using
this value with the plain access key, {{tag|access|designated}}, has no
meaning, and should '''not''' be used. ''(see [[#Transport mode

On https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:access%3Ddesignated, Verdy_p
added a banner saying "NOTE! The exact key/value combination
access=designated should never appear on an object. The value
*=designated must be used with a specific mode of transport. Examples:
bicycle=designated or foot=designated." - he made this change without
any change comment.

The user rafmar (you?) seems to have assumed that Verdy_p wanted to
discourage the use of all "designated" values, but to be fair to
Verdy_p, the banner explicitly says you SHOULD use the "designated"
value, just not with the "access" key.

In my eyes it was not ok for Verdy_p to make sweeping changes like that
under the radar but as I said, he makes SO MANY of them that nobody even
has the time to discuss them all.

BUT in this particular case, rafmar's complaint seems to be unfounded
and based on a misunderstanding.


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