[Tagging] How to tag monumental railcars

Mark Bradley ethnicfoodisgreat at gmail.com
Wed May 17 16:54:02 UTC 2017


> Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 17:04:28 -0400
> From: "Mark Bradley" <ethnicfoodisgreat at gmail.com>
> To: <tagging at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: [Tagging] How to tag monumental railcars
>
> > From: Tijmen Stam <mailinglists at iivq.net>
> > To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools"
> > 	<tagging at openstreetmap.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Tagging] How to tag monumental railcars
> >
> > On 10-05-17 13:15, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> > > On 10 May 2017 at 10:24, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I believe in British English it should be "waggon".
> > >
> > > "Waggon was preferred in British English until a century ago and it
> > > still appears occasionally, but it is fast becoming archaic. In this
> > > century, the shorter one is preferred in all main varieties of
> > > English."
> > >
> > > http://grammarist.com/spelling/wagon-waggon/
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I think I'm setting for historic=railway_car Which is the name
> > Wikipedia uses for one item of railway rolling stock which is not a
> > locomotive (be it a freight or passenger car
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railroad_car
> >
> > Railcar, in the UK rail parlance, means a single-car powered passenger
> > car with driver stands (usually) at both ends.
> >
> > I took the liberty of creating a wiki page (basically copied
> > historic:locomotive):
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic%3Drailway_car
> 
> 
> After reading the Wikipedia article entitled "Railroad car" that you referred to, I think
> you should modify your wiki page to modify the description of "railway car" to include
> non-revenue cars.  I have mapped several cabooses (UK brake vans), a type of non-
> revenue car, and technically these don't fall under the categories of rolling stock,
> freight cars, or passenger cars/coaches.
> 
> Mark Bradley
> 
> 
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> Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 23:22:25 +0100
> From: Andy Mabbett <andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk>
> To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools"
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> Subject: Re: [Tagging] How to tag monumental railcars
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> On 15 May 2017 at 22:04, Mark Bradley <ethnicfoodisgreat at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I have mapped several cabooses (UK brake vans), a type of non-revenue
> > car, and technically these don't fall under the categories of rolling
> > stock, freight cars, or passenger cars/coaches.
> 
> As an en-GB native, and having spent ten years working at a railway museum in
> England, I would say brake vans are definitely "rolling stock" (as indeed is anything on
> wheels that moves on railway rails).
> 
> Both en.Wikipedia's categories (see
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_van ) and Wikidata agree with that.
> 
> --
> Andy Mabbett
> @pigsonthewing
> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk




Very well; I'll use historic=railway_car for cabooses.

Mark Bradley





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