[Tagging] Access by permit

[Warin]

On 19-Sep-17 03:56 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 12:37 PM, joost schouppe 
> <joost.schouppe at gmail.com <mailto:joost.schouppe at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     That said, even if this hivemind of ours (and let me add to that
>     "one of us, one of us, one of us") maybe does not like an extra
>     value for the access key, I see no reason why you would need to
>     use another database. There are very many things which are not
>     mapped by just one key, but by many keys combined. You just need a
>     key to classify WHY a thing has a certain access key. I see
>     someone already suggested
>     permit=registration_at_entry/registration_offsite/online/lottery.
>     That could work as a subtag: access:permit=*, foot:permit=*. You
>     could then simply tag it as *:permit=yes meaning "there is some
>     permitting process in place". That would save you the hassle of
>     defining all the many different permitting schemes. It would of
>     course best be extended with some information about the difficulty
>     of the process (on arrival, in advance and simple, in advance and
>     complicated) and contact information. That would also be quite
>     useful to extend the limited model now used on Low Emission Zones
>     (see
>     http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dlow_emission_zone
>     <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dlow_emission_zone>).
>     It would certainly be better then the
>     now-used access=green_sticker_germany :)
>
>
> Similar things were counterproposed the last time I had mentioned this.
>
> The reason that I don't like it as much is that the 'permit=*' stuff 
> then grew layer upon layer of qualifiers in the discussion - the 
> denizens of 'tagging' got bogged down with trying to simplify the 
> messy, human-centered process of access control into a few keys, and 
> got nowhere.
>
>

>
>  The real-life sign says, "Access by permit only, for information 
> contact..." and that's what I propose to map!
>


Yep.
I think the important thing is the contact information - this is where 
the detail of what is required can be obtained rather than having those 
details in OSM.
It is the details that vary a lot from place to place and maybe too 
varied around the world for renders to be bothered with. It might just 
change from time to time, rather not have the dynamic stuff on OSM?

So access=permit with permit_contact:web/email/phone/*=* ???
Would that be a compromise 'we' can all use?




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