[Tagging] Access by permit

[Dave Swarthout]

Folks, a permit is nothing more than a written form of permission. The OED
defines permit as "an official document giving permission to do something".
It doesn't imply anything other than that.

In my original post, I said I needed a way to tag a fishing pond located
within a military zone so that sportsmen could know ahead of time that some
sort of permission was needed before using the resource. It turns out that
hunting and wood cutting are also allowed on this military reservation and
for these activities too, a permit is required. The "permission" usually
takes the physical form of a document one must possess when using the
resource. Such permits are often only a formality, as it is in this case,
and are available to the general public. Other times some money must be
paid. In the end, one receives some sort of document, a permission document
(aka permit) that allows them access to the pond or woodlot.

Now, I hope I'm not complicating this whole question by stating that one
also needs a State of Alaska fishing license before being allowed to fish
in these ponds. In one sense this is also permission document but one that
applies to the entire state of Alaska. However, such a license does not
apply to any particular pond. Rather, it applies to all the ponds and
waters in the entire state and that, to my mind at least, is what
distinguishes the two permissions. The permit I'm talking about is merely
an access permission.

Perhaps that might be where some of the confusion is coming from. I hope I
haven't muddied the waters too much by bringing that up.

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com
> wrote:

>
>
> 2017-09-21 14:40 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl>:
>
>> - access to a Low Emission Zone
>>>
>>
>>
>> IMHO this has nothing to do with "permit", you don't need a permit, you
>> (or better: your vehicle) must satisfy certain conditions. Those are more
>> similar to maxweight or maxheight IMHO ("maxemission").
>>
>>
>> It is sometimes a condition that you are in possession of a document,
>> which has to be applied for, can be refused, and must be produced on
>> demand. For example the German Umweltplakette which you may be familiar
>> with. No sticker means no entry. You can get a ticket for "failing to
>> display a sticker." That passes the duck test for being a permit.
>>
>
>
> IMHO this is not a "permit", it is the documentation that your car
> fullfills the requirements. In Italy you have to expose a small piece of
> printed paper from your insurance company behind the windshield to document
> that you have paid car insurance. No sticker means you can get a ticket. Is
> a car insurance payment receipt a "permit"?
>
> Not every document you have to apply for is a "permit".
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
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Dave Swarthout
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