[Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on simulating road network

José G Moya Y. josemoya at gmail.com
Mon Apr 23 15:02:23 UTC 2018


I like "training=traffic_education" for the ones addressed to children.
When i was on one of those, as a children, i was too young to ride a
bicycle (miniature bikes for children under six were not common in spain in
the early seventies).

So "training=cycling" is wrong, sine most of these parks are for pedestrian
education also, as someone said. training=cycling

There was one of those "traffic parks" in retiro park, Madrid. It was
flooded and turned into an artificial lake in the nineties.

According to my memories and the photo imaginery, there is one of these at
the "Veredillas Park" of Torrejón de Ardoz, Madrid, Spain. I've just added
a note about it on the map.
See:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58341755#map=19/40.46607/-3.46959



El 23/4/2018 16:31, <osm.tagging at thorsten.engler.id.au> escribió:

[TIC] training=practical_application_of_traffic_rules



*From:* Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>
*Sent:* Monday, 23 April 2018 22:20

*To:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <tagging at openstreetmap.org>
*Subject:* Re: [Tagging] tagging cycleable city-models focused on
simulating road network



2018-04-23 13:03 GMT+02:00 Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com>:



I'd prefer something more structured than duck tagging a crowded amenity
tag, simply because we're likely to
encounter more types of training as time goes by.  amenity=training +
training=cycling works for me.



as you can train almost everything, we could make "training" "new"[1] key.

The proposed "training=cycling" already has everything, there is nothing
added with amenity=training. Still, training=cycling is very broad in its
possible meaning, could be a racetrack for people who ride bicycle races on
the street, it could be a place where people that perform tricks with
bicycles (or skateboards, etc.) exercise, it could be a place where
downhill bikers exercise, or one where you bring the kids to learn about
basic traffic rules.

"children traffic safety education" (is a generic function, as it doesn't
state indoor, outdoor, or maybe classrooms)
"children driver training area" (is about a physical place)
"children traffic training centre"
...

As always there's the question where to use subtags for "small" differences
(e.g. traffic training for bicycles and those for cars, or in golfing
driving range vs. the green), etc. and where it makes more sense to have
"main level" different tags because things are quite different. (e.g. the
driving range is quite different from a putting green, but they share the
same specific field of endaveour, both are golf training places).

"training" comes in all kinds, sauces and context, so a new "training" key
would be one possible way to do it, but it is not how the system of
established tags works (because a lot of training already happens behind
other tags).



Cheers,

Martin



[1] It is already used 1700 times, although there isn't a definition page
yet (AFAIK): https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/training#values
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