[Tagging] musical_instrument tag for publicly available musical instruments

[Thilo Haug OSM]

Hello all,

i think that subtags are necessary for all types of shops
but may be the same for every (non-food) type of shop,
as all of them usually offer the same (besides sales),
so the following may apply :

musical_instrument:sales=*
musical_instrument:rental=*
musical_instrument:repair=*
musical_instrument:parts=*
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dmusical_instrument

I case of the bars,
it could be
amenity=bar
musical_instrument:rental=piano
fee:piao=no @ customers
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:fee

So the keys for the shop
could also be used for other "main" tags such as amenities.
Any standardisation would IMHO ease the tagging of more complex cases.

Cheers,
Thilo

Am 29.04.2018 um 10:36 schrieb José G Moya Y.:
> I think this is a good idea, but, in the suggestion of Thorsten, I
> find problematic the use of "access=" tag when instruments are in a
> bar. Imagine a bar with a private piano is tagged as a point:
>
> amenity=bar
> amenity=musical_instrument
> musical_instrument=piano
> access=private
>
> It does not make clear if either access to bar or access to piano is
> private. 
>
> Also, since bars are amenities, a duplicate "amenity" tag arises. You
> have to either put two points or tag the bar as an area.
>
> Yours,
>
> José
>
>
> El dom., 29 de abril de 2018 7:51, <osm.tagging at thorsten.engler.id.au
> <mailto:osm.tagging at thorsten.engler.id.au>> escribió:
>
>     The musical_instrument *key* is generally used to name the
>     specific type of musical instrument:
>     https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/musical_instrument
>
>     You are correct that it's mostly used in combination with
>     shop=musical_instrument (a place selling them) or
>     craft=musical_instrument (a place making them).
>
>     But there are also a (very) few cases tagged as
>     amenity=musical_instrument (a place where a musical instrument is
>     available for use) and playground=musical_instrument (similar, but
>     generally a more robust "toy" instrument aimed at a younger
>     audience). Neither one of which is currently specifically
>     documented on the wiki, but that shouldn't stop you from using them.
>
>     So a piano in a bar that is available for people to play on should
>     probably be tagged:
>
>     amenity=musical_instrument
>     musical_instrument=piano
>     access=permissive (or access=customer in some cases)
>
>     Either way, the piano is privately owned and the owner is
>     currently making it available to other people, but may revoke that
>     permission at will in the future.
>
>     Cheers,
>     Thorsten
>
>     P.S. is there a preference on this mailing list for top or bottom
>     posting?
>
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: e1k <emileaben at protonmail.ch <mailto:emileaben at protonmail.ch>>
>     > Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2018 15:12
>     > To: tagging at openstreetmap.org <mailto:tagging at openstreetmap.org>
>     > Subject: [Tagging] musical_instrument tag for publicly available
>     > musical instruments
>     >
>     > Hi,
>     >
>     > (first post, plz be gentle!)
>     > i'd love to see if there can be consensus on the use of the
>     > 'musical_instrument' tag for publicly available musical instruments.
>     > a growing number of bars, train stations and or other public places
>     > have musical instruments around where i live (Amsterdam area), and
>     > i've started noticing and collecting these places, and would love
>     > to tag them in openstreetmap.
>     > use case: as a musician that travels around a bit, i'd love to know
>     > where i can find a piano or guitar to play on.
>     > i see the musical_instrument tag is mostly (only?) used for place
>     > that create and/or sell musical instruments, but i'm wondering what
>     > the appropriate form of tag would be for a publicly available
>     > musical instrument.
>     > (if this has been discussed before, plz point me at it, i coudln't
>     > find it)
>     >
>     > best regards,
>     > emile
>     >
>     >
>     > ​---
>     >
>     > All revolutions are impossible until they happen. Then they become
>     > inevitable -- Albie Sachs​
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > Tagging mailing list
>     > Tagging at openstreetmap.org <mailto:Tagging at openstreetmap.org>
>     > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
>
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     Tagging mailing list
>     Tagging at openstreetmap.org <mailto:Tagging at openstreetmap.org>
>     https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tagging mailing list
> Tagging at openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/attachments/20180429/df213a22/attachment-0001.html>