[Tagging] What is a VTC car in OSM ?

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Tue Aug 21 23:05:58 UTC 2018

OK, so this is an access restriction - e.g.
private=VTC (or some other term that is applicable around the world, say 

If pedestrians are still allowed to use it then
private=VTC (or some other term that is applicable around the world, say 

and so on for other access restrictions.

On 21/08/18 23:05, yo paseopor wrote:
> Yes , it is restricted to these vehicles. In the ground and in the 
> traffic signs you can read VTC (Uber, Cabify). I said I don't want 
> discussion about what is a VTC really and if should they exist. I only 
> want to know how to map it, because in the Barcelona's harbour there 
> are spots specifically tagged with VTC road marks, and I think they 
> are not PSV vehicles so... what is it? How to map it? Also, in Madrid 
> there is a lot of shared cars. How to map it? OSM's Wiki is so weak in 
> these two terms.
> Thanks
> Salut i places d'aparcament
> yopaseopor
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com 
> <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     On 21/08/18 20:26, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>>     sent from a phone
>>     On 21. Aug 2018, at 10:55, José G Moya Y. <josemoya at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:josemoya at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>     VTC is how rental cars with professional driver are called in
>>>     Spain. I think the rest of the thread clarifies this: It is the
>>>     Spanish name for Uber, Cabify and other companies that provide
>>>     private transport services but are not taxis (their cars are not
>>>     equipped with taxi meter).
>>     rental with a driver is a regulated category different to taxis
>>     in some jurisdictions, e.g. in Germany and Italy (and probably
>>     many more, e.g. France [1]). AFAIK neither in Italy nor in
>>     Germany Uber qualifies. In Italy they are called NCC and you need
>>     a license, are not allowed to pick up customers nor to park your
>>     vehicle on public space. The Italian WP says they are a kind of
>>     public transport without routes, the German WP says they aren’t
>>     (in Germany). Uber (and others) don’t qualify because they don’t
>>     meet the requirements (their drivers don’t generally have a
>>     P-license in Germany, needed for the transport of people, they
>>     don’t typically have the NCC license in Italy, and they don’t
>>     adhere to other rules and regulations for this kind of
>>     transport). They are operating in a grey area, pretending the
>>     service is assimilable to picking up hitchhikers
>>     (commercialization of the sharing economy).
>>     If there are specific parking or resting areas for vehicles that
>>     provide a kind of service like these, we should craft the
>>     definitions carefully and see what we need to require in order to
>>     be able to identify and distinguish the different classes that we
>>     want.
>     Rather than "what we want" it should be "what exists".
>     What is being mapped?
>     Places where these vehicles are parked? For what reason are they
>     parked? Is it restricted to only these kind of vehicles?
>     Or an office where these vehicles are managed?
>     ------------------------------------------
>     In at least some parts of the UK the driver needs a "private hire
>     licence" for Uber.
>      Humm they have taxis ... but also hire cars umm what do they call
>     them? Arrr minicabs.
>     The UK regards both Uber and minicabs as "private hire". How does
>     the UK map minicabs?
>     https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dtaxi#Taxi_shops.3F
>     <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dtaxi#Taxi_shops.3F>
>     https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=3184
>     <https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=3184>
>     It is a can of worms.
>     .
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