[Tagging] What is a VTC car in OSM ?
Warin
61sundowner at gmail.com
Tue Aug 21 23:05:58 UTC 2018
OK, so this is an access restriction - e.g.
access=private
private=VTC (or some other term that is applicable around the world, say
private_hire_vehicle?)
If pedestrians are still allowed to use it then
motor_vehicle=private
private=VTC (or some other term that is applicable around the world, say
private_hire_vehicle?)
and so on for other access restrictions.
On 21/08/18 23:05, yo paseopor wrote:
> Yes , it is restricted to these vehicles. In the ground and in the
> traffic signs you can read VTC (Uber, Cabify). I said I don't want
> discussion about what is a VTC really and if should they exist. I only
> want to know how to map it, because in the Barcelona's harbour there
> are spots specifically tagged with VTC road marks, and I think they
> are not PSV vehicles so... what is it? How to map it? Also, in Madrid
> there is a lot of shared cars. How to map it? OSM's Wiki is so weak in
> these two terms.
>
> Thanks
> Salut i places d'aparcament
> yopaseopor
>
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com
> <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On 21/08/18 20:26, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>>
>>
>> sent from a phone
>>
>> On 21. Aug 2018, at 10:55, José G Moya Y. <josemoya at gmail.com
>> <mailto:josemoya at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> VTC is how rental cars with professional driver are called in
>>> Spain. I think the rest of the thread clarifies this: It is the
>>> Spanish name for Uber, Cabify and other companies that provide
>>> private transport services but are not taxis (their cars are not
>>> equipped with taxi meter).
>>
>>
>> rental with a driver is a regulated category different to taxis
>> in some jurisdictions, e.g. in Germany and Italy (and probably
>> many more, e.g. France [1]). AFAIK neither in Italy nor in
>> Germany Uber qualifies. In Italy they are called NCC and you need
>> a license, are not allowed to pick up customers nor to park your
>> vehicle on public space. The Italian WP says they are a kind of
>> public transport without routes, the German WP says they aren’t
>> (in Germany). Uber (and others) don’t qualify because they don’t
>> meet the requirements (their drivers don’t generally have a
>> P-license in Germany, needed for the transport of people, they
>> don’t typically have the NCC license in Italy, and they don’t
>> adhere to other rules and regulations for this kind of
>> transport). They are operating in a grey area, pretending the
>> service is assimilable to picking up hitchhikers
>> (commercialization of the sharing economy).
>>
>> If there are specific parking or resting areas for vehicles that
>> provide a kind of service like these, we should craft the
>> definitions carefully and see what we need to require in order to
>> be able to identify and distinguish the different classes that we
>> want.
>
> Rather than "what we want" it should be "what exists".
>
> What is being mapped?
> Places where these vehicles are parked? For what reason are they
> parked? Is it restricted to only these kind of vehicles?
> Or an office where these vehicles are managed?
>
>
> ------------------------------------------
> In at least some parts of the UK the driver needs a "private hire
> licence" for Uber.
>
> Humm they have taxis ... but also hire cars umm what do they call
> them? Arrr minicabs.
> The UK regards both Uber and minicabs as "private hire". How does
> the UK map minicabs?
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dtaxi#Taxi_shops.3F
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dtaxi#Taxi_shops.3F>
> https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=3184
> <https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=3184>
>
> It is a can of worms.
>
> .
>
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