[Tagging] What is a VTC car in OSM ?

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Wed Aug 22 04:38:44 UTC 2018

One further tag that should be of use ?
description=VTC only

That should be helpful.

On 22/08/18 09:05, Warin wrote:
> OK, so this is an access restriction - e.g.
> access=private
> private=VTC (or some other term that is applicable around the world, 
> say private_hire_vehicle?)
> If pedestrians are still allowed to use it then
> motor_vehicle=private
> private=VTC (or some other term that is applicable around the world, 
> say private_hire_vehicle?)
> and so on for other access restrictions.
> On 21/08/18 23:05, yo paseopor wrote:
>> Yes , it is restricted to these vehicles. In the ground and in the 
>> traffic signs you can read VTC (Uber, Cabify). I said I don't want 
>> discussion about what is a VTC really and if should they exist. I 
>> only want to know how to map it, because in the Barcelona's harbour 
>> there are spots specifically tagged with VTC road marks, and I think 
>> they are not PSV vehicles so... what is it? How to map it? Also, in 
>> Madrid there is a lot of shared cars. How to map it? OSM's Wiki is so 
>> weak in these two terms.
>> Thanks
>> Salut i places d'aparcament
>> yopaseopor
>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>     On 21/08/18 20:26, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>>>     sent from a phone
>>>     On 21. Aug 2018, at 10:55, José G Moya Y. <josemoya at gmail.com
>>>     <mailto:josemoya at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>     VTC is how rental cars with professional driver are called in
>>>>     Spain. I think the rest of the thread clarifies this: It is the
>>>>     Spanish name for Uber, Cabify and other companies that provide
>>>>     private transport services but are not taxis (their cars are
>>>>     not equipped with taxi meter).
>>>     rental with a driver is a regulated category different to taxis
>>>     in some jurisdictions, e.g. in Germany and Italy (and probably
>>>     many more, e.g. France [1]). AFAIK neither in Italy nor in
>>>     Germany Uber qualifies. In Italy they are called NCC and you
>>>     need a license, are not allowed to pick up customers nor to park
>>>     your vehicle on public space. The Italian WP says they are a
>>>     kind of public transport without routes, the German WP says they
>>>     aren’t (in Germany). Uber (and others) don’t qualify because
>>>     they don’t meet the requirements (their drivers don’t generally
>>>     have a P-license in Germany, needed for the transport of people,
>>>     they don’t typically have the NCC license in Italy, and they
>>>     don’t adhere to other rules and regulations for this kind of
>>>     transport). They are operating in a grey area, pretending the
>>>     service is assimilable to picking up hitchhikers
>>>     (commercialization of the sharing economy).
>>>     If there are specific parking or resting areas for vehicles that
>>>     provide a kind of service like these, we should craft the
>>>     definitions carefully and see what we need to require in order
>>>     to be able to identify and distinguish the different classes
>>>     that we want.
>>     Rather than "what we want" it should be "what exists".
>>     What is being mapped?
>>     Places where these vehicles are parked? For what reason are they
>>     parked? Is it restricted to only these kind of vehicles?
>>     Or an office where these vehicles are managed?
>>     ------------------------------------------
>>     In at least some parts of the UK the driver needs a "private hire
>>     licence" for Uber.
>>      Humm they have taxis ... but also hire cars umm what do they
>>     call them? Arrr minicabs.
>>     The UK regards both Uber and minicabs as "private hire". How does
>>     the UK map minicabs?
>>     https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dtaxi#Taxi_shops.3F
>>     <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dtaxi#Taxi_shops.3F>
>>     https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=3184
>>     <https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=3184>
>>     It is a can of worms.
>>     .
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