[Tagging] Can OSM become a geospacial database?
geodesy99 at gmail.com
Thu Dec 6 22:38:42 UTC 2018
> great you name carpenters, because there were actually some problems in the
> past classifying people working with wood. ... Can you explain the
> difference between a framer, a carpenter, a cabinet maker, a joiner, a
> finish carpenter, a timberman, a ring builder, a jerry man, a binder?
There could only be a problem classifying trades if existing lexicons are
ignored. At least in the U.S., currently, there are fairly exact
definitions for trade classifications, down to the types of tools, specific
materials, certification, and processes where required.
Example: *"Grade 9 roofers must be fully skilled in installing new roofs.
They must have the ability to apply the starter row of shingles to insure
that they overlap properly and that they are securely fastened to the
subsurface to eliminate possibility of leaks. On built-up roofs, they must
be skilled in applying roofing felt, asphalt and gravel, or other topping
material, and in sealing joints of roofing accessories with asphalt. In
addition to work at the grade 7 level, the grade 9 roofers must be able to
install and repair the metal roofing accessories themselves, such as gravel
guards, flashings, gutters, valleys, vents, pipes, and chimneys.They also
must have the ability to cut and form metal accessories to meet roofing
requirements, to fasten them to roofs with nails or screws, to solder metal
joints, and to cut and shape shingles to fit around the accessories. In
comparison with the grade 7 level, the grade 9 roofers also must be
familiar with a greater variety of roofing materials and their uses and
methods of installation. They must know how to apply wood, asbestos, slate
tile, and composition shingles; metal roofing panels; roofing felt and
asphalt. When required, they must be able to apply asbestos siding
materials.In addition to the hand tools used at the grade 7 level, they
must be skilled in the use of shingle cutters, metal snips and saws. "*
International Open BIM systems standards ( Building Information Management,
which covers the entire life cycle from natural site, through construction
and operation, to demolition and site restoration ) have even finer grain
Some of them might be synonyms, some reflect regional differences (e.g. AE
> vs. BE)?
Since the labor and materials supply chain is international, there are
multi-lingual crosswalk tables between the U.S. and E.U., between the E.U.
and the member countries.
A casual observer might observe a job site during a pour, and classify the
workers as 'concrete workers', when they are actually Formwork *Carpenters.*
Folksonomies <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folksonomy> like OSM have
benefits, but as they expand, the downsides begin to matter, and there
usually isn't an effective mechanism to refactor them.
Sometimes the apparent complexity of these existing standards appear
intimidating, but they all have a root, branches, and leaves, and one can
select the level(s) of abstraction which are coincident with common
language. i.e. in one place you can see what the differences *and
similarities* "... between a framer, a carpenter, a cabinet maker, a
joiner, a finish carpenter, a timberman, a ring builder, a jerry man, a
binder" are, and where your term lies in the hierarchy. Sometimes, the
'root' concept and groupings are not obvious.
This also leaves room for reconciling it with other classifications -
Japanese style carpentry roles are more or less orthogonal to Western
style, more intensely aligned to product, the worker literally might select
and fell the tree, mill that wood, and eventually carve it to shape in it's
It's a question, to a degree, of "re-inventing the wheel". There are
already existing tagging schemes in the world ( some going back to the
1700's, from guilds and registries ). It might be worth a few minutes to
seek those out, and adopt from those.
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