[Tagging] request for review: OSM wiki rewording of tourism=motel based on Wikipedia

[Tobias Wrede]

In Germany my experience is that actually most hotels in the cities 
charge for parking. On the other hand you find very very few that call 
themselves "motel". I can only think of one currently that does, and it 
is located within a motorway rest area. The exception is the chain Motel 
One which is a very typical _h_otel often located in city centers 
offering only limited parking.

When I think of a motel I always picture those with doors opening to the 
car park from US movies. Now that several comments here indicate that 
the only practical distinction today is the name on the front sign I 
come to think that we could abandon the tag altogether. What value does 
it generate for the data consumer if tourism=motel and tourism=hotel is 
all but the same and practical distinction could for both be made by 
subtags parking=y/n, parking:fee=y/n, etc?

Tobias


Am 24.12.2018 um 01:12 schrieb Joseph Eisenberg:
> In the USA, we would also assume a motel offers free parking. Hotels 
> may charge extra for parking, especial if located downtown or next to 
> an airport.
>
> Is this also the case in Europe and Australia?
> On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 8:55 AM Dave Swarthout 
> <daveswarthout at gmail.com <mailto:daveswarthout at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     "Today the main difference seems to be the sign out front.  If a
>     hostelry calls itself a motel, it is a motel.  If it calls itself
>     a hotel, it is a hotel.  Local licensing authorities do not
>     differentiate between them and they are regulated identically, so
>     far as I can tell. I'd say the definition should be based on what
>     is written on the sign on the hostelry."
>
>     +1
>
>     That's my main criterion for tagging an accommodation as a  motel.
>     I agree with Volker's points and Allan's view on this.
>
>     Happy Holidays
>
>     Dave
>
>     On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 6:27 AM Allan Mustard <allan at mustard.net
>     <mailto:allan at mustard.net>> wrote:
>
>         Motel = MOtor hoTEL
>
>         The major difference between a 'hotel" and a "motel"
>         originally was the configuration of the building with respect
>         to parking.  At a traditionally designed motel, the cars are
>         parked outside the units, which typically open to the
>         outdoors, not to a hallway, so that patrons of the motel may
>         come and go freely to their automobiles.  Length of stay is
>         immaterial.
>
>         The first motels appeared on the Lincoln Highway in the 1920s,
>         if memory serves, and had little carports capable of
>         accommodating a Model T Ford-sized automobile next to a cabin
>         (yes, the first motels featured cabins, not rooms in a larger
>         building).
>
>         Then along came Motel 6, so called because it charged $6 per
>         night back in the day (it featured coin-operated TVs and you
>         paid extra for everything but the bed, bath, and four walls). 
>         Many Motel 6s had hallways, and that changed the design, but
>         they still catered to transients en route from Point A to Point B.
>
>         Today the main difference seems to be the sign out front.  If
>         a hostelry calls itself a motel, it is a motel.  If it calls
>         itself a hotel, it is a hotel. Local licensing authorities do
>         not differentiate between them and they are regulated
>         identically, so far as I can tell.  I'd say the definition
>         should be based on what is written on the sign on the
>         hostelry. These are my two cents' worth based on 30+ years of
>         travel, including a few cross-country trips across America as
>         well as extensive on-ground travel in Mexico, Russia, and
>         central Europe.
>
>         Cheers and Merry Christmas to all!
>         apm-wa
>
>
>         On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 4:33 AM bkil <bkil.hu
>         <http://bkil.hu>+Aq at gmail.com <mailto:Aq at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             I've made a major rewording of this tag. Please review and
>             don't hesitate to comment or improve if I've mistakenly
>             changed the meaning of the tag:
>
>             https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Atourism%3Dmotel&type=revision&diff=1755686&oldid=1561324
>
>             Source: based on Wikipedia and recent mapping experience:
>             https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/65702446#map=9/47.1412/18.6632
>
>             It also looks like some have used the word motel for what
>             should have been pensions and guest houses around here,
>             I'll also fix these later.
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