[Tagging] Short-term parking zones

[Matej Lieskovský]

+1 for a separate group

On 16 January 2018 at 23:03, Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.kenny+osm at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 3:58 PM, Tod Fitch <tod at fitchdesign.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 16, 2018, at 9:43 AM, Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
>> On Jan 16, 2018 05:36, "Stefan Nagy" <stefan.nagy at posteo.net> wrote:
>>
>> Am 16.01.2018 12:10 schrieb marc marc:
>>
>>> we probably need to work on "default values".
>>> but no one seems motivated to work on the proposal.
>>>
>>
>> Is 'default values' a better word for what I called 'implicit values'
>> before or are you talking about something else?
>>
>>
>> That's how I read it.  Would be handy for situations that frequently come
>> up, like the speed limit of an area unless otherwise posted being a
>> specific value, or like U turns being blanket banned anywhere with a
>> traffic light in the City of Tulsa and State of Oregon.
>>
>>
>> I think I’ve seen the question of setting defaults come up several times
>> on this list and never get traction. I personally think they’d be a good
>> thing to simplify tagging.
>>
>> Just yesterday I felt obligated when putting a maxspeed tag on some
>> residential streets resorted to also adding a source:maxspeed="California
>> vehicle code 22352”. Paragraph 22352 in the California vehicle code
>> indicates, among other things, that a unsigned a residential street has a
>> 25 mph speed limit. It would be much easier and more encompassing to be
>> able to add a tag to the boundary relation for California to indicate the
>> default speeds for various highway classes in the state. Not a big deal for
>> motorways as there are only a few tens of thousands of miles of those, but
>> there has to millions of miles of residential roads in California with many
>> (most?) being unsigned. But being unsigned won’t stop you from getting a
>> ticket for exceeding the prima facia speed limit so routers and navigation
>> guidance applications ought to know about it.
>>
>
> That's a great idea - if we can pick up after the TIGER. Far too many
> rural roads are 'highway=residential' otherwise. The TIGER import's highway
> classes are NOT grounded in reality.
>
> Nevertheless, for instance, my township has a speed limit of 30 mph except
> as posted, and (again except as posted) no on-street parking from midnight
> to 6am following a four-inch snowfall. I've never tried to tag any of that
> sort of regulatory information, but I can imagine that applying it to all
> the streets in the town would be both tedious and unmanageable (the latter
> because if the town were to change the ordinance, it would mean updates to
> many hundreds of highway segments). That stuff wouldn't depend on highway
> class at all, just on whether the road segment is in the township.
>
>
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