[Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag

Paul Johnson baloo at ursamundi.org
Thu Jun 7 21:58:34 UTC 2018


If you find a way to do it, by all means, share, since the lane tagging
issue is directly affected.

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 05:52 Peter Elderson <pelderson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Providing a more consistent while still backwards compatible tagging
> scheme for a feature is not the end of freedom. It just helps to answer the
> all-time question: how is this done? with an answer that makes more sense.
> Taggers will adopt it because it makes sense.
>
>
>
> Op do 7 jun. 2018 12:33 schreef Christoph Hormann <osm at imagico.de>:
>
>> On Thursday 07 June 2018, Selfish Seahorse wrote:
>> > > There are tons of established tags in OSM where the key makes no
>> > > sense at all.  Don't get me started on 'waterway' for example.  But
>> > > that is how OSM works.  Get over it, accept that people have made
>> > > bad choices of keys when choosing tags and concentrate on
>> > > encouraging and helping people to choose suitable keys when newly
>> > > creating tags (in a productive way of course, not just by rejecting
>> > > any idea as bad).
>> >
>> > And what's wrong with getting rid of these bad choices?
>>
>> Nothing except it would mean the end of free form tagging and it would
>> require creating some framework of tagging authorities in OSM who
>> decide on what is good and bad or in short:  The end of OSM as an
>> egalitarian global community.
>>
>> Once more my suggestion to Martin and others who repeat the same matra
>> we have heard for years over and over again:  Accept that there are
>> thousands of mappers who do not care about key hygiene like you do or
>> have the sense of order you have.  That is a simple fact of life in a
>> diverse global community like OSM.
>>
>> For me this always sounds a bit like someone who wants to 'fix the
>> English language' by eliminating irregular verbs and other exceptions
>> so you can say "I goed to the pub yesterday and haved a beer".  Yes, in
>> principle you can do that and you can argue this might make it easier
>> for people to learn the language but it just would not be English any
>> more.
>>
>> Your brave new world with an intelligent design of orthogonal keys
>> would - apart from being an illusion (Kurt Gödel is greeting) - just
>> not be OSM any more.
>>
>> --
>> Christoph Hormann
>> http://www.imagico.de/
>>
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