[Tagging] highway=service // public road?
osm at bavarianmallet.de
Thu May 24 10:07:36 UTC 2018
Am 23.05.2018 um 22:33 schrieb Greg Troxel:
> Florian Lohoff <f at zz.de> writes:
>> I now see increasing usage of service roads as a category below
>> unclassified. People tagging "smaller roads" in the countryside
>> as a service roads.
> I think this is basically wrong tagging.
>> I find this a little disturbing and now got into an argument whereas
>> my position is the above - broken down into my more strict language:
>> - If the public has a right of way
>> - The road is build/run by public authorities
>> - Its not something obvious like a parking space
>> - It cant be service
>> It might not fit 100% everywhere, but no rule without its exception.
> Broadly agreed with your concerns.
> A very important characteristic of a place you can drive is
> - it is legally a road, where more or less anyone has a right to
> drive (and this can be public ownership or private). Typically this
> means that the ground on which it is built is carved out as a
> separate lot for ownership (or government owned). This can be
> government, or it can be a road in a subdivision which is in the US
> marked "private way" meaning that it is legally a road but privately
> owned. You can still get a speeding ticket on it, because the road
> use rules apply to private ways, but do not apply to what you do in
> your farm field.
> Whether they apply in a shopping center is an interesting question.
> I'd say: yes, you will be cited, and probably that does not hold
> up. But in some places (north carolina), the property owner can put
> up signs that the traffic laws apply anyway - I saw these at the
> biltmore estate. Basically "this is private but the unwashed
> public is here and we want the police to be able to bust them" :-)
> - not legally a road, in that there is no right of access, traffic
> laws do not necessarily apply, and there is no separate parcel for
> This is basically
> "highway=primary/secondary/tertiary/unclassified/residential" vs
> It would be goo to have this be
That's a wonderful theory - and you get a 'stew' mess of unclassified if
you do that in mapping the reality ...
The mapping differentiation in unclassified (mostly connecting roads),
service without service=* (mostly destination roads) and track (for -
due to history - public accessible rural driveways) is simply driven by
The first we had at navigating in the late 199x'/early 200x - resulting
in advising horrible routes through undesirable ways.
With the latter you have a reasonable routing (and rendering too, by the
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