[Tagging] Slow vehicle turnouts

Marc Gemis marc.gemis at gmail.com
Tue Sep 4 09:45:01 UTC 2018

I would use both lanes=x+1 (where x is the number of lanes without
turnout section)
and something like

 turnout:lanes=no|no|yes|yes (if there are 2 turn out lanes)
lanes:turnout=1 (or 2, or 3)

this is similar to tagging deficated bus lanes
On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 9:37 AM SelfishSeahorse
<selfishseahorse at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi!
> I'd propose to tag the section of the road with the turnout (or alternatively just a node) turnout:<left/right/both>=yes.
> I would neither use a lane key nor a separate highway=service way, because slow vehicle turnouts aren't lanes for moving traffic and because a separate highway way would give the wrong impression that the turnout were physically separated from the other lanes.
> Regards
> Markus
> On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 12:31 Dave Swarthout, <daveswarthout at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm still trying to cook up a scheme where those pullouts can be added as a way and then tagged in a manner that reveals their purpose and function. The use of lanes may indeed be the most correct approach but to my way of thinking, it doesn't communicate the purpose of the "extra" lane very well.
>> Because the turnouts use a separate lane, are very short in length, and are not really thoroughfares in the usual sense, might it be logical to tag them as service roads? As an example:
>> highway=service
>> service=slow_vehicle_turnout (or slow_vehicle_lane)
>> lanes=1
>> oneway=yes
>> Opinions? Observations?
>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 4:16 AM Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.kenny at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 4:11 PM Dave Swarthout <daveswarthout at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >We also have the occasional spot like
>>> > >https://orthos.dhses.ny.gov/?Extent=-8283718.624472891,5242597.149663145,-8283317.927238801,5242833.029555047&Layers=2017_cache,2016_cache,2015_cache,2014_cache,2013_cache
>>> > >There, we have an extra lane on the northbound side for the purpose of
>>> > >getting by when the way is blocked by left-turning traffic
>>> >
>>> > My case is almost identical to the above illustration, except to substitute the words "slow moving vehicles" for "left turning traffic". I reckon I could use the lanes tagging but like Kevin, I have many "other fish to fry" which is why I'm still looking for a simple one-tag-fixes-all solution.
>>> My guess is that the slow-moving traffic is supposed to pull over into
>>> the outer lane, allowing the parade behind to pass on the inside,
>>> rather than the through traffic passing on the outer lane?  That's
>>> like my first case, except that in that particular case, the climbing
>>> lane goes on for several km (the highway is gaining a few hundred
>>> metres of elevation up the Helderberg escarpment). We do have ones
>>> that are more like pullouts rather than long lanes. There's a shorter
>>> one on the westbound carriageway in
>>> https://orthos.dhses.ny.gov/?Extent=-8267325.730037971,5268580.377261018,-8265722.941101252,5269523.896828834&Layers=2017_cache,2016_cache,2015_cache,2014_cache,2013_cache
>>> By contrast, although the section is short, the outer westbound lane
>>> in https://orthos.dhses.ny.gov/?Extent=-8244541.671667748,5187738.535180551,-8244140.974433658,5187974.415072453&Layers=2017_cache,2016_cache,2015_cache,2014_cache,2013_cache
>>> is NOT a climbing lane. It's set off by a single broken line, and
>>> traffic is expected to keep to the right except to pass.
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