[Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

egil egil at riseup.net
Thu Sep 20 09:19:07 UTC 2018

In Sweden government agencies are actually not allowed to own the 
properties they use.

Therefore they have long term tenant contracts with required minimum 
level of building maintenance, etc.

These properties are owned by large private real estate giants buying 
and selling from each other.

The owners see the agency as a tenant, nothing more. If the agency moves 
the owner finds any other tenant to rent out the space to.

I tend to agree with Colins arguments below, because in Sweden gov. 
agencies are very mixed into the central spaces of cities but often not 
clustered together in large complexes or whole areas.



On 9/20/18 10:39 AM, Colin Smale wrote:
> Maybe it's just me, but I really can't understand why landuse for 
> government functions needs its own tagging. The buildings are often 
> indistinguishable from commercial properties - what is different is 
> that the occupier is some statutory organisation. We don't tag 
> landuse=charity, or landuse=private, or landuse=education, so why 
> landuse=civic_admin? If you want to know who the tenant of a certain 
> building is, let's have tenant=City of Blah and allow this for any 
> building (or campus). Same arguments against landuse=religious. Why 
> should farm be tagged as landuse=religious instead of landuse=farmland 
> just because it is run by monks? Land use is the use a piece of land 
> is put to, and not WHO is doing the using or WHY they are doing it. If 
> we want to record those other dimensions, use different tags instead 
> of further complicating the landuse mess.
> On 2018-09-20 08:25, Andy Townsend wrote:
>> On 20/09/18 03:57, John Willis wrote:
>>> ... Retail is always wrong. Commercial is a crutch.
>> In your part of the world, perhaps.  Elsewhere, this isn't guaranteed 
>> to be the case.  Certainly here in the UK many formerly "civic" 
>> services have been privatised and are run for out-and-out commercial 
>> gain; others are run as commercial entities owned by the government 
>> or non-governmental third sector organisations.  What this means is 
>> that people will need to pick the landuse that works best for them in 
>> their local area - to say that something is "always wrong" is, in 
>> OSM, almost always wrong(!).
>> Best Regards,
>> Andy
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