[Tagging] Subtag for place=locality?

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Mon Apr 15 12:04:08 UTC 2019


That's an interesting example. Was the wheel put there as a landmark
or route marker, or just for fun?

If the tag "place=locality" didn't exist, how would you tag this?

On 4/15/19, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
> As an example of a locality that has never had a population
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/117041320
>
> /The Wheel/ (a car wheel - no tyre) was originally mounted on a tree by
> bushwalkers to mark the hub of the Blue Labyrinth's ridges.
>
> No one has ever lived there. Plenty of people go past, and it still a
> navigational feature.
>
> Fairly certain other localities have their stories to tell too.
>
>
> n 15/04/19 17:23, Warin wrote:
>> From the original start of place=locality
>>
>> /All current place tags are for either populated areas, or for larger
>> areas of County sized or bigger. The place=locality tag is useful for
>> places that have a specific name, but do not necessarily have any
>> geographic feature or population centre that could be used to attach a
>> name tag to. /
>>
>> That to me suggest that places that locality can be a place that had
>> population, or places that did not have a population.
>>
>> But, I agree, that places that had a population would be better tagged
>> disused:/abandonded: place=hamlet/town/village/city
>>
>> I think that can go on the wiki for locality... under 'when not to
>> use' with the others there.
>> /
>> /
>> On 15/04/19 17:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> sent from a phone
>>>
>>> On 15. Apr 2019, at 03:55, Joseph Eisenberg
>>> <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com <mailto:joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The most important value would be one for a locality that is a former
>>>> populated place but no longer has a population.
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ve always understood the population part of the locality tag
>>> definition as a way of saying the place name does not relate to a
>>> settlement or dwelling (but it doesn’t necessarily mean nobody is
>>> living around there, it means this name is not for an inhabited
>>> place). A generic tag for a place name/ toponym, to be used where no
>>> specific tag has yet been developed.
>>> (e.g. we have specific tags for toponyms that refer to mountain
>>> peaks, wetlands, lakes, islands, deserts, caves, settlements, etc. so
>>> we don’t use locality for them)
>>>
>>> I’m not sure I’d support locality subtags, for lots of things a main
>>> tag might be more fitting with the established tagging system, but it
>>> depends on the actually proposed values.
>>>
>>> For ghost towns (settlements) I’ve found a lot tagged as
>>> abandoned:place=hamlet/village/town
>>>
>>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/abandoned:place#values
>>>
>>> which seems inline with the rest of our tagging and is by far more
>>> frequent than any “ghost” variations.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Martin
>>>
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